Lightning Battery Design Question

[TexasGuy]

Does anyone know what type of battery design and construction Ford is using?

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[Dirtyrider89]

SK Innovation presents the Ford F-150 Lightningpickup truck, which is a suprising sight in South Korea. The F-150 is equipped with SK Innovation's NCM 9½½ cells.

"NCM9 is a battery that has the proportion of nickel up to approximately 90%. Nickel is a mineral that has the greatest influence on battery output and driving range. As NCM9 has high energy, it is difficult to manufacture without advanced technology that ensures safety. SK Innovation completed the production of this battery with its exclusively unrivaled safety technology and will supply it to Ford from next year." Copied from inside Evs

 

[KevinC]

Sorry if this is old news. I ran across an older article that implied LFP will be used on the PRO model.
I'd be curious if anyone can corroborate this. It might explain how the Pro could appear as more of a bargain. They are supposedly much cheaper to produce and have more recharge cycles , but with a lower energy density.

Inspired by Tesla, the Ford Motor Company has confirmed that will use LFP batteries in all-electric commercial vehicles. The lithium-iron-phosphate battery cells are called IonBoost Pro, and they will be joined by the IonBoost lithium-ion batteries and Solid Power solid-state batteries. Ford LFP SK innovations

 

[jefro]

Don't expect LiFePo4 batteries to be around too long. Every EV maker is almost ready to offer solid state batteries.

 

[Vorador]

Don't expect LiFePo4 batteries to be around too long. Every EV maker is almost ready to offer solid state batteries.

Solid state batteries are just like Tesla's robotaxis. They are always coming next year.

 

[KevinC]

Solid state batteries are just like Tesla's robotaxis. They are always coming next year.

I'm very excited about solid state batteries, but I think it will be at least 4 years to show up in a real car. In the mean time I want something to drive now.

 

[jefro]

They are already being installed into cars.

 

[SteffanG]

I think we will see solid state batteries in cell phones and laptops years before they come into cars. It is a much better test bench for the technology as customers only expect them to last 2 or 3 years worth of use and get charged/discharged every day unlike vehicles.

 

[UNIKRN150]

I wouldn't worry about "battery capacity".

Just make sure you order your Lighning with the "Tow Package" and you're "golden"!

 

[UNIKRN150]

I wouldn't worry about "battery capacity".

Just make sure you order your Lighning with the "Tow Package" and you're "golden"!

I'm glad you all "got it".

Last time I posted that I got roasted by a bunch of angry Lightning fans.
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[jefro]

Should have ordered the AERO package for the tow package to improve mpg-e.

 

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[Yellow Buddy]

As someone that has to perform 'safety' testing (all the things manufacturers tell you not to do, we do it here), I'm always happy to see the 'C' (Colbot) reduced!

May I ask why? Does C go boom?

 

[Tony Burgh]

May I ask why? Does C go boom?

Is the problem with cobalt the expense or the manner which it is mined or both?

 

[beatle]

Is the problem with cobalt the expense or the manner which it is mined or both?

Both are motivations for finding an alternative. Here is a quote from this article:

Cobalt is a scarce, toxic, and lustrous mineral that is found in the negatively charged electrode—or cathode—of almost all lithium-ion batteries used today. It’s expensive, heavy, and linked to unethical mining practices, wild price swings, and a tenuous global supply chain. It’s no wonder so many battery manufacturers want to kick their cobalt habit. But the material plays a crucial role in stabilizing batteries and boosting their energy density. Although experimental cobalt-free cells exist, they’ve all had major performance issues like limited lifetimes and slower charge rates—until now.​

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