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There is a button to open the frunk. It's closer to the driver's side. It also closes it.
On the interior of the truck there is a button as well to the left of steering wheel near the light controls.
What I meant to say was a button on the fob.
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All I want is more range. Just give me 400 miles unloaded, 150 to 200 miles towing. I will be as happy as a lark. LOVE the rest of the truck.
 

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This is an electrical code thing that Ford is going to be unable to fix.
Sure they can. Lots of generators have this feature…..
 

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Sure they can. Lots of generators have this feature…..
Neutral has to be bonded to ground somewhere in the system. Otherwise you lose all the protection it provides. Being as the primary use case for Pro-Power is to directly power devices/tools, it has to be bonded.

In my research, only generators intended to be used as a standby power source have floating neutrals, as they are depending on the existing bond in the distribution center they service.
 

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It's vehicle mounted so the generator must be bonded.
Is this per the NEC? If so it also seems like the NEC leaves the door open for the Lightning to have a floating neutral.


Neutral has to be bonded to ground somewhere in the system. Otherwise you lose all the protection it provides. Being as the primary use case for Pro-Power is to directly power devices/tools, it has to be bonded.

In my research, only generators intended to be used as a standby power source have floating neutrals, as they are depending on the existing bond in the distribution center they service.
Yep I totally understand. It would be nice if there was a jumper for a “home backup generator” mode. There are certainly ways to solve for both.
 

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For those that mention having drive mode default to last used, I believe it is an EPA thing, just like it is ICE vehicles to maintain maintain the EPA rating. That is why engine start/stop always turns on as well as drive mode returns to normal.
Honestly, I the improvements I’d like to see is a button on the fob to open the frunk. Most of these recommendations are superficial, which is fine, but what Ford really needs to do is to have the service soon notification tell you what needs to be serviced, not generic powertrain fault. Maybe focus on getting through a year with minimal recalls, and work with the dealers to actually do the work Ford pays them for and we as customers expect. Not just order a part based on what the customer says, but actually pull codes to see what’s wrong.
I can open my frunk from the fob
 

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Imagine this: An electric pickup truck that doesn't have lane centering, lane keeping, BlueCruise, cross-path detection, lane change assistance, adaptive cruise control, and all of the other needless tech. Rip all that stuff out, and leave only the EV powertrain, HVAC, a decent radio, power windows and locks. Now you can sell the truck to more consumers, because the price will be far lower to appeal to the younger crowd and it'll be less of a tech transition which will appeal to more of the older crowd.

Sometimes I feel like these companies had the idea that if they load up EVs with needless tech and in some cases a futuristic design it would make them more appealing. But I think if they did exactly the opposite it would be more appealing. Keep the price down, and sales go up.
 

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Neutral has to be bonded to ground somewhere in the system. Otherwise you lose all the protection it provides. Being as the primary use case for Pro-Power is to directly power devices/tools, it has to be bonded.

In my research, only generators intended to be used as a standby power source have floating neutrals, as they are depending on the existing bond in the distribution center they service.
Exactly the same use case - when the Truck is used as a standby power source for your house is the situation people run into issues with.
 

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Enhancing the value of something the customer already paid for seems counterintuitive. But it builds brand loyalty and lets a company that does it bank on that future value.

Tesla shipped the Cybertruck without the software implemented yet for several off-road functionalities. But Tesla buyers all *knew* they would get that functionality in a software update. In the Ford, there is not ability to count on future updates. The truck ahs the features it has when I buy it. So not paying any premium for future update capability.

In fact, Ford has generated the opposite sentiment. I fear that Ford will disable existing functionality and take away value. For example, no more scales in the app.
 

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Imagine this: An electric pickup truck that doesn't have lane centering, lane keeping, BlueCruise, cross-path detection, lane change assistance, adaptive cruise control, and all of the other needless tech. Rip all that stuff out, and leave only the EV powertrain, HVAC, a decent radio, power windows and locks. Now you can sell the truck to more consumers, because the price will be far lower to appeal to the younger crowd and it'll be less of a tech transition which will appeal to more of the older crowd.

Sometimes I feel like these companies had the idea that if they load up EVs with needless tech and in some cases a futuristic design it would make them more appealing. But I think if they did exactly the opposite it would be more appealing. Keep the price down, and sales go up.
Issue with that is that in some jurisdictions, automatic safety systems are required by law. Though not specifically listed in your comment, back up cameras for example are mandated by the Canadian government on all new vehicles. Others may require automatic emergency braking, lane keep assist, etc.. So from the manufacturers perspective, why not add all of that and more to take advantage of the hardware that is required?

Being in sales myself, if you give too much (or too little) choice to the broad customer base (not the minority enthusiasts like those who will join a model specific forum) they get lost and confused. Best to create a certain number of premade packages and offer them. Keeps things simple for both the manufacturer and consumer.

I do agree with your base premise though, there is alot of tech and integration that most may not use explicitly but are forced to take it due to the packaging.
 

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As long as we're making another list, how about teaching the truck that it's not a bus?

I just posted a thread about it, but the speed limit recognition function seems to think that the Busses Speed Limit signs apply to the truck, which makes for a really annoying trip on the interstate as it speeds up passing the regular speed limit sign, then slows down suddenly for the busses speed limit sign. . .
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