Software Auto-Update Disabled Until Ford Can Prove They Can Be Responsible ...

[KrazyCelticKid]

I am absolutely sick of Ford software updates. When auto-update was enabled, I would randomly get into my truck and find certain settings returned to default, and I'm sick of resetting them every time there's an update:

- MyView always removes my preferences and defaults to "Calm View". I absolutely hate Calm View
- Vehicle > Alarm Settings always resets to default after a software update - super great to have SECURITY ALARM SETTINGS change without your knowledge

Unrelated to software updates:

Ford simply can't retain the setting for a 24-hour clock. Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time.


Ford's software needs a lot of work /rant


P.S. Complaining about this just because it drives me bonkers - getting rid of the visor garage door opener on the 2025 Lariat? As much as I liked parking assistance, I understand why it was removed due to lack of use - the sensors were far too delayed; by the time it tells you it's found a spot you've already driven four spots past it. But removing the garage door opener? On the Lariat trim? C'mon ...

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[chriserx]

I am absolutely sick of Ford software updates. When auto-update was enabled, I would randomly get into my truck and find certain settings returned to default, and I'm sick of resetting them every time there's an update:

- MyView always removes my preferences and defaults to "Calm View". I absolutely hate Calm View
- Vehicle > Alarm Settings always resets to default after a software update - super great to have SECURITY ALARM SETTINGS change without your knowledge

Unrelated to software updates:

Ford simply can't retain the setting for a 24-hour clock. Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time.


Ford's software needs a lot of work /rant


P.S. Complaining about this just because it drives me bonkers - getting rid of the visor garage door opener on the 2025 Lariat? As much as I liked parking assistance, I understand why it was removed due to lack of use - the sensors were far too delayed; by the time it tells you it's found a spot you've already driven four spots past it. But removing the garage door opener? On the Lariat trim? C'mon ...

That's interesting, I've had 24 hour clock set since I bought it and haven't had to change it back as far as I can remember. It's been 4 updates since. I did have the issue of reentering the truck, select to stay in sport and it goes to normal anyway today, first time. The only other settings I have customized are adaptive cruise related and they haven't changed either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[bmwhitetx]

Ford simply can't retain the setting for a 24-hour clock. Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time.

Yeah, unfortunately this has been an issue for early trucks iirc. If you're comfortable with FORScan, you can try making a simple mod:

24-Hour Clock Persistence (may fix issue on some trucks where 24-hour clock is not persistent)
IPC 720-01-02 xx*x xx--
0 12-hour clock, Door ajar chime disabled
2 12-hour clock, Door ajar chime enabled (default)
4 24-hour clock, Door ajar chime disabled
6 24-hour clock, Door ajar chime enabled
Basically, make this value is a 4 or 6 depending on whether you had door ajar chime disabled (0) or enabled (2).

For more info on FORScan, see the link in my signature.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Our 22's have have been plagued with these issues for some time, I wonder if Ford has given up sending solid updates to our trucks to fix these niggling problems, I'm at the point of just doing my own tweaking.

 

[Brons2]

But removing the garage door opener? On the Lariat trim? C'mon ...

Homelink has been removed from all Ford vehicles, to my knowledge. It is a security risk.

 

[Adventureboy]

Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time.

That sucks. I thought Ford had fixed that problem. I think it was only 2022s that were affected. My 2023 hasn't had any issue with it.

 

[B177y]

Ford simply can't retain the setting for a 24-hour clock. Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time

That sucks. I thought Ford had fixed that problem. I think it was only 2022s that were affected. My 2023 hasn't had any issue with it.

Yeah, unfortunately this has been an issue for early trucks iirc. If you're comfortable with FORScan, you can try making a simple mod:

24-Hour Clock Persistence (may fix issue on some trucks where 24-hour clock is not persistent)
IPC 720-01-02 xx*x xx--
0 12-hour clock, Door ajar chime disabled
2 12-hour clock, Door ajar chime enabled (default)
4 24-hour clock, Door ajar chime disabled
6 24-hour clock, Door ajar chime enabled
Basically, make this value is a 4 or 6 depending on whether you had door ajar chime disabled (0) or enabled (2).

For more info on FORScan, see the link in my signature.

That's interesting, I've had 24 hour clock set since I bought it and haven't had to change it back as far as I can remember. It's been 4 updates since. I did have the issue of reentering the truck, select to stay in sport and it goes to normal anyway today, first time. The only other settings I have customized are adaptive cruise related and they haven't changed either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I had to use ForScan to fix this on my 2024 Pro, so yes, it's still a thing on newer trucks

 

[WildBlue]

I find that my truck will also re-enable the stupid Brake Coach every few weeks as well.

 

[KrazyCelticKid]

Homelink has been removed from all Ford vehicles, to my knowledge. It is a security risk.

Is that confirmed somewhere? Everything I’ve read says they did it for cost-cutting reasons

 

[Brons2]

Is that confirmed somewhere? Everything I’ve read says they did it for cost-cutting reasons

Is which part confirmed? I can't speak to Ford's ultimate motives.

However, I work in Cybersecurity, of course it's a security risk. Steal your car and now the bad guys have free access to your house. How many people don't lock the door between their garage and their house?

You're much better off doing garage door opening with your Alexa integration, it requires voice recognition to work. It's not perfect, but it's much more secure than having an opener integrated into your visor. Just my $0.02.

 

[chl]

Is which part confirmed? I can't speak to Ford's ultimate motives.

However, I work in Cybersecurity, of course it's a security risk. Steal your car and now the bad guys have free access to your house. How many people don't lock the door between their garage and their house?

You're much better off doing garage door opening with your Alexa integration, it requires voice recognition to work. It's not perfect, but it's much more secure than having an opener integrated into your visor. Just my $0.02.

Nothing is going to stop a determined burglar anyway*, so why inconvenience Lightning owners?

A pro burglar is going to have all the garage codes handy anyway to try - a mechanical lock will stop the opener....

One of my other vehicles had the garage door opener control built in - I open mine with my bare hands, but my neighbor's garage door tried to open when I accidentally hit the button when adjusting my rear view mirror! They had a mechanical lock on it so it just fought with that for a while. My bad.

*For example, they'll get a battery powered saw and cut a hole in your roof to get in if it's easier than bashing open a door or breaking a window or opening your garage door.

 

[TechnoSwiss]

Is which part confirmed? I can't speak to Ford's ultimate motives.

However, I work in Cybersecurity, of course it's a security risk. Steal your car and now the bad guys have free access to your house. How many people don't lock the door between their garage and their house?

You're much better off doing garage door opening with your Alexa integration, it requires voice recognition to work. It's not perfect, but it's much more secure than having an opener integrated into your visor. Just my $0.02.

It's no more of a risk than keeping the door opener in your car, which is what most people end up doing with Homelink missing. In fact it's probably MORE of a risk since some of the Homelink's only work when the car is on, while the the remote both works while the car is off, and can be removed and used later.

But honestly... the emergency release on your garage door opener is probably a bigger risk than having the opener in your car, it takes about 12 seconds for somebody with a little experience, and it's easier for a novice to pull off then breaking into your car (arguable still easier than breaking a window).

To your point though, it's a good idea to lock that door between the garage and the house, since breaking into the garage is probably easier than most people think, unless they've taken steps to mitigate risks from the garage door emergency release.

 

[shutterbug]

However, I work in Cybersecurity, of course it's a security risk. Steal your car and now the bad guys have free access to your house. How many people don't lock the door between their garage and their house?

Wait! What? People have been using garage door openers for over 50 years, and now it's an urgent risk? There is no practical difference between a garage door remote left in the car (which most people still do) and a homelink button on the visor.

 

[Effonefiddy Lightning]

I am absolutely sick of Ford software updates. When auto-update was enabled, I would randomly get into my truck and find certain settings returned to default, and I'm sick of resetting them every time there's an update:

- MyView always removes my preferences and defaults to "Calm View". I absolutely hate Calm View
- Vehicle > Alarm Settings always resets to default after a software update - super great to have SECURITY ALARM SETTINGS change without your knowledge

Unrelated to software updates:

Ford simply can't retain the setting for a 24-hour clock. Every time the vehicle is powered off and plugged in, that resets to 12 hour time.


Ford's software needs a lot of work /rant


P.S. Complaining about this just because it drives me bonkers - getting rid of the visor garage door opener on the 2025 Lariat? As much as I liked parking assistance, I understand why it was removed due to lack of use - the sensors were far too delayed; by the time it tells you it's found a spot you've already driven four spots past it. But removing the garage door opener? On the Lariat trim? C'mon ...

I'm with you man.

 

[chriserx]

Wait! What? People have been using garage door openers for over 50 years, and now it's an urgent risk? There is no practical difference between a garage door remote left in the car (which most people still do) and a homelink button on the visor.

I mean, I get your point, but at the same time the last 10 or so years have really accelerated the need for risk reassessments for older tech. Security through obscurity is absolutely no longer an option.

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