Tesla Supercharger PSA

[electricpig]

I can't think of a single gas vehicle that had the refill at the front-left corner of a vehicle.

All new supercharger installations are "ambidextrous". And even the older sites could be fixed somewhat inexpensively by repainting some lines. This will become less of an issue over time.

Actually I was referring to driving forward to refill on the driver side, or pass nger side for that matter, but pull through. That should have been obvious.

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[electricpig]

What a sad hater life you must live.

Hahahaha, whatever. Sorry I OFFENDED you. Guess you don't like accounts of people that were there if it makes Elon look not so good. Carry on. Doesn't matter to me. Your just text on a screen.

 

[doggod]

Hahahaha, whatever. Sorry I OFFENDED you. Guess you don't like accounts of people that were there if it makes Elon look not so good. Carry on. Doesn't matter to me. Your just text on a screen.

You did not offend me just yourself and your hate was offended. shows a lack of information.

 

[2sleep]

I have found that Pilot and Flying J stations along the interstates often have GM Branded drive through chargers. They are all pretty fast, at least the ones I came across on my 5075 mile trip from Western NC to LAX and back. They have plenty of room to pull in with a trailer. I even saw a Cybertruck with a trailer using one.

 

[ogdobber]

Nahhh, I rather be looking where I'm going. It also happens to be what people were/are accustomed to for fueling unless they are in a Tesla. It's just Tesla fans have brain washed people to think it's the "right" location. I read a while back the only reason it is located where it is is that during the development of the early cars, Elon was renting a mansion that Ford some reason was not able to get power unless it was located where it is now (don't remember exact details), and "insisted" that all Tesla have the port where it is. Supposedly the engineers and everyone else wanted a more traditional approach, but it didn't fit for Lord Elon.

When tesla has 80000 of the most reliable ev chargers, you probably wanna be able to easily plug into those. Ford made a bad choice there, front forward right would have been so easy. Im not saying the tesla is in the best spot, but they do get most things right.
Front or rear charging doesn’t matter, you are either going to back into a spot or back out of one. I prefer a faster exit.

 

[electricpig]

You did not offend me just yourself and your hate was offended. shows a lack of information.

Hahaha , whatever helps you feel better. Enjoy your insecurities.

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

When tesla has 80000 of the most reliable ev chargers, you probably wanna be able to easily plug into those. Ford made a bad choice there, front forward right would have been so easy. Im not saying the tesla is in the best spot, but they do get most things right.
Front or rear charging doesn’t matter, you are either going to back into a spot or back out of one. I prefer a faster exit.

To be fair, I don’t believe the truck was launched with the ability to use Superchargers. When the truck was in the design phase, Superchargers were exclusive to Tesla vehicles. This didn’t change in North America until 2023.

 

[electricpig]

When tesla has 80000 of the most reliable ev chargers, you probably wanna be able to easily plug into those. Ford made a bad choice there, front forward right would have been so easy. Im not saying the tesla is in the best spot, but they do get most things right.
Front or rear charging doesn’t matter, you are either going to back into a spot or back out of one. I prefer a faster exit.

The problem with that ideal is that when the Lightning was being designed, only Tesla cars had access to Tesla superchargers, and did not have access for 2 years after release. So just why would you design for Tesla Superchargers? Answer is you wouldn't. You would design to your customers that are use to pulling forward into fueling. Plus as another posted stated, it works better for home charging. My S.O. hates having to back into our driveway to charge her MY.

As for faster exit, if you live in a dangerous place, that makes sense, but general parking is not set up with that in mind, and so backing in in most cases is atypical. I personally had a tail light destroyed due to someone backing into a parking spot. $5K damage because visibility sucks backing in.

 

[ogdobber]

The problem with that ideal is that when the Lightning was being designed, only Tesla cars had access to Tesla superchargers, and did not have access for 2 years after release. So just why would you design for Tesla Superchargers? Answer is you wouldn't. You would design to your customers that are use to pulling forward into fueling. Plus as another posted stated, it works better for home charging. My S.O. hates having to back into our driveway to charge her MY.

As for faster exit, if you live in a dangerous place, that makes sense, but general parking is not set up with that in mind, and so backing in in most cases is atypical. I personally had a tail light destroyed due to someone backing into a parking spot. $5K damage because visibility sucks backing in.

Fair enough that they weren’t initially allowed but that is just foolishness to design it a way that it (almost) doesn’t allow it to charge on anything but a v4. Left side and almost 4 feet back!! Why not Front forward right. You never know, you might someday make a deal and be allowed on those 80k chargers.( I believe that deal was made after Farley did a road trip with his family and saw how bad the other chargers are.) So Ford is designing something and they have no idea what they are doing except “appeasing” their ice drivers coming over. Like that stupid shifter that always breaks and then you cant get it replaced because so many are broken they are sold out!
If you are going to change something thats not the norm like tesla’s back left, put it in a better spot. Front forward right. You can pull in and charge with a trailer on non drive thru,(thats better than tesla) curbside public city charging without a cord near lanes of traffic (better), you get your home easy pull in charging. Etc. however you are going to have to back up anyways to leave right? I dont back into my garage because i live in a bad area, i do it because when i leave at 5am and im not quite as “sharp” as i was when i pulled in the previous night.

 

[RLXXI]

Fair enough that they weren’t initially allowed but that is just foolishness to design it a way that it (almost) doesn’t allow it to charge on anything but a v4. Left side and almost 4 feet back!! Why not Front forward right. You never know, you might someday make a deal and be allowed on those 80k chargers.( I believe that deal was made after Farley did a road trip with his family and saw how bad the other chargers are.) So Ford is designing something and they have no idea what they are doing except “appeasing” their ice drivers coming over. Like that stupid shifter that always breaks and then you cant get it replaced because so many are broken they are sold out!
If you are going to change something thats not the norm like tesla’s back left, put it in a better spot. Front forward right. You can pull in and charge with a trailer on non drive thru,(thats better than tesla) curbside public city charging without a cord near lanes of traffic (better), you get your home easy pull in charging. Etc. however you are going to have to back up anyways to leave right? I dont back into my garage because i live in a bad area, i do it because when i leave at 5am and im not quite as “sharp” as i was when i pulled in the previous night.

They've restocked evidently, got mine replaced same day I took it in for the shifter, it is a poor quality part build considering.

 

[hturnerfamily]

while many might complain about either where their own vehicle has the charging port, or how their favorite DCFC is designed, logistically, little of this will matter in the future if most locations move to a more 'drive next to/thru' layout, as many now are.
whether your vehicle has the charge Port in the premier location, which apparently is up to argument for many, DCFC layout design is the more relative discussion.

for instance, look at the layout of fuel stations: NONE are laid out to have to 'pull up' to, but rather are 'pass by' designs, so that no matter WHERE your vehicle's fuel inlet is located, you have a relatively easy option of 'how' to pull in next to your pump. DCFC design should be the same.

I will also argue, along these lines, that no matter where a manufacturer decides to locate the vehicle's fuel inlet, owners can still be annoyed... look at many Motorhomes: some have the fuel port on the opposite side of the driver, near the rear. Others have it near the front. Some are on the driver side, thankfully. And, others, believe it or not, have it smack dab in the MIDDLE of the REAR of the Motorhome...crazy. Funny, too, as this outlandish location is touted by the manufacturers as a 'benefit' to owners.... what?? They advertise that this makes it even EASIER when fueling! What?? Now, at first, it may seem they are on to something...but, your first time driving it into a fueling station, you'll quickly realize WHY they are sooooooo wrong.
A fuel station's hose is only 'so' long... and getting that huge VEHICLE both CLOSE ENOUGH to the pump, and pull up past it FAR ENOUGH for the rear of the Motorhome to be within reach, well.... puts your motorhome OUT INTO THE TRAVEL LANE of traffic! Crazy. What were they thinking.

 

[electricpig]

Fair enough that they weren’t initially allowed but that is just foolishness to design it a way that it (almost) doesn’t allow it to charge on anything but a v4. Left side and almost 4 feet back!! Why not Front forward right. You never know, you might someday make a deal and be allowed on those 80k chargers.( I believe that deal was made after Farley did a road trip with his family and saw how bad the other chargers are.) So Ford is designing something and they have no idea what they are doing except “appeasing” their ice drivers coming over. Like that stupid shifter that always breaks and then you cant get it replaced because so many are broken they are sold out!
If you are going to change something thats not the norm like tesla’s back left, put it in a better spot. Front forward right. You can pull in and charge with a trailer on non drive thru,(thats better than tesla) curbside public city charging without a cord near lanes of traffic (better), you get your home easy pull in charging. Etc. however you are going to have to back up anyways to leave right? I dont back into my garage because i live in a bad area, i do it because when i leave at 5am and im not quite as “sharp” as i was when i pulled in the previous night.

Well one thing I missed in my reply last night, is the fact at the time of design and delivery, that basically ALL CCS chargers were behind the curb of pull in stalls. It's still probably 85,% that way. Yes you COULD back in to those, but they also have and still have much longer cables than any Tesla Superchargers. Again your target customer is use to pulling forward to fuel.

Edit: FWIW, I do see many more people backing into parking now. Just saw a gas F150 backing into a spot where I work. I believe this has been influenced by the acceptance of Tesla. I do drive the SO's MY sometimes, and haven't had any issues backing in to charging, but it's not preferred.

 

[garsh]

Edit: FWIW, I do see many more people backing into parking now. Just saw a gas F150 backing into a spot where I work. I believe this has been influenced by the acceptance of Tesla.

If you weren't taught to always back into parking spaces, then your daddy didn't teach you very well.

Back when cars didn't have back up cameras, or ultrasonic sensors, parking involved using your eyes and not much else. When there's a car on either side of you blocking your view, backing out of a parking space with your head turned around was a gamble. Pulling forward out of a space was the safest thing you could do.

Nowadays, backup cameras make backing out about as safe, so I guess I'm showing my age.

 

[K6CCC]

If you weren't taught to always back into parking spaces, then your daddy didn't teach you very well

I was taught to back in or better yet pull through. To this day, I always prefer to get a pull through spot whenever available. And yes, I will go out of my way (park farther away) to be able to pull through.

 

[DavidS]

I forgot all the trailers being towed that I see…..
Obviously a regular gas station type of chargers handles this. When have you seen a ICE vehicle have the gas tank filler located where our charge ports are located? They are all located in the rear

VW Beetles up through 1967 had the gas cap in the driver side front under the hood. Up through the late 60’s there was a lot of experimentation with gas cap locations but I think safety and emissions regulations more or less determined today’s locations.
On EVs it can be a vehicle packaging issue with cable harness and power module locations determining location. It will take further standardization of EV components before charge port locations become more uniform. But also short Tesla charging cords will probably disappear within another 5 years.

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