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He = Me.

I have the official version now, and nothing has changed.

BC1.4 will not do hands-free on a surface street with red lights and turn lanes, only on divided highways.
I was using it yesterday on surface streets hands free. Is it possible the 2025 model I have has better or upgraded hardware to accommodate my enhanced experience?
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Blue Cruise= hands-free (only on divided, controlled access highways that ford has mapped, also includes lane-change assist and in-lane repositioning). $$$$ after trial ends.

Lane Centering Assist= the truck will technically steer itself on most roads but requires you to move the wheel every so often.

I have BC 1.4 and still have about 2.5 years on my trial but still got a Comma. Mainly to get rid of the steering wheel nag around town and on the two hour (non-interstate) drive to my parents 2-3 times a month.
 
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BC 1.4 in my truck works great, am I missing something with this comma system?
Yes, a lot of money in your wallet (once the free trial is done)
 

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Blue Cruise= hands-free (only on divided, controlled access highways that ford has mapped, also includes lane-change assist and in-lane repositioning)
That is BS, I just posted how I used it on surface streets yesterday.
 

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That is BS, I just posted how I used it on surface streets yesterday.
Then grab a GoPro and show us a video.

I've done literally thousands of hours of testing and analyzing the canbus signals of the ford system. I only see 2 possbilities here:

A) We are communicating poorly and not talkinga bout the same thing
b) Your torque sensor in the steering wheel is damaged and is registering your hands on all the time.

On a non-bluecruise mapped road the ford PSCM will check for at least 1.5NM of torque on the wheel every 8 seconds.
 

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yeah, you would be the first person ever to have blue cruise on city streets. I would bet a comma that you don't though. Blue Cruise is only active when you have a blue screen similar to the first image below and there's a 0% chance of that on non-interstates or controlled divided highways. Ok, I shouldn't say 0% since those with comma's can get that screen anywhere with cruise control. :crazy: The second image is regular lane-centering with the steering wheel on the top left and requires frequent pressure on the wheel to avoid the "keep hands on the wheel" nag.

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Then grab a GoPro and show us a video.

I've done literally thousands of hours of testing and analyzing the canbus signals of the ford system. I only see 2 possbilities here:

A) We are communicating poorly and not talkinga bout the same thing
b) Your torque sensor in the steering wheel is damaged and is registering your hands on all the time.

On a non-bluecruise mapped road the ford PSCM will check for at least 1.5NM of torque on the wheel every 8 seconds.
What I noticed while it was steering itself on surface streets is every now and then it would tell me to put hands on wheel, when I did, the alert would go away and continue steering itself. It didn't stay on with the blue wheel as shown in your screen, I've seen that pop up on the hwy. Regardless of what it's called, the truck was keeping itself centered in it's lane.
 

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What I noticed while it was steering itself on surface streets is every now and then it would tell me to put hands on wheel, when I did, the alert would go away and continue steering itself. It didn't stay on with the blue wheel as shown in your screen, I've seen that pop up on the hwy. Regardless of what it's called, the truck was keeping itself centered in it's lane.
That is the hands-on wheel nag. With the Comma, you can go for hours without touching the wheel on any street.
 

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What I noticed while it was steering itself on surface streets is every now and then it would tell me to put hands on wheel, when I did, the alert would go away and continue steering itself. It didn't stay on with the blue wheel as shown in your screen, I've seen that pop up on the hwy. Regardless of what it's called, the truck was keeping itself centered in it's lane.
Not to come off as rude, but if you don't understand how the stock systems work and what they are called, you probably don't need to install a comma. They are essentially dev kits and you need at least a basic understanding of what it does. What you are talking about is Copilot 360 which is not hands free, which is why it is telling you to grab the wheel. Blue Cruise is the stock hands free system and it only works on mapped roads. It also shows the graphic on the IPC as shown by the post above (Which he is only getting because of the comma).
 
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Not to come off as rude, but if you don't understand how the stock systems work and what they are called, you probably don't need to install a comma. They are essentially dev kits and you need at least a basic understanding of what it does. What you are talking about is Copilot 360 which is not hands free, which is why it is telling you to grab the wheel. Blue Cruise is the stock hands free system and it only works on mapped roads. It also shows the graphic on the IPC as shown by the post above.
New to the truck not new to electronics or dev kit items. I thought copilot 360 was what the comma came with. Where as stock the truck comes with lane keeping, lane centering and blue cruise.

In any event it makes no difference to me, I know what my truck was doing and I'm good with it.
 

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Out of over 100 I've installed, I've had one bad 90-degree adapter. The 180-degree adapter is much more common to fail, and about 4 of the last 10 have been bad. My new dock is explicitly designed to eliminate that 180 and hide the short cable so it isn't in a place where it gets touched a lot. Because I handle my comma so much during development, I have worn out 3 of those short cables.
So, I was able to narrow my issue down to the short 5" cable. I ordered another brand (Cable Creations) which worked but is not as flexible as the the one you spec'd. I reordered the original cable and so far, so good.

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With the Comma, you can go for hours without touching the wheel on any street.
Even at low speeds, whereas the built in lane centering doesn't kick in below 40MPH.
 

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Even at low speeds, whereas the built in lane centering doesn't kick in below 40MPH.
normal lane centering will work as low as 15mph, but there are a whole list of requirements for it to come on, and they are rarely satisfied in places with low speed limits.
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