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What is the Trick? To leaving the Pro Power ON?

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Do we have an Amazon source for the timers being used? Also is there some other electronic device on the market that would pull 100-300 watts that would be safer than a heater or light bulb?

I like the idea of powering the dash cams for theft purposes such as with ppob but I wouldn't want to leave the truck on all night at a motel with a lit dash and calm screen even if I covered them. Best choice is just to take the chances of not running down the 12v battery even though it doesn't pull that much power. I'm still looking for a 360 degree dashcam system that isn't that expensive. Adding a recorder to the trucks cameras would be nice if they could be used.

What’s the concern with the car being left on if it’s locked and no key or phone inside? If someone tries to break in and tried to drive off, it ain’t going anywhere without a key. It’ll shutoff.
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Never tried it with the truck, but with the prius, once running, I can drive it anywhere without a key until I shut it off and then it won't start again. I'd be worried about one of those key cloning theft rings may be operating in the area.

Got a trip planned to Denver next month and I sure wouldn't want to have to make a police report for auto theft saying I left it running outside the motel all night!!! Plan to stop and eat at Casa Bonita there in a now not so nice area of town. I don't even know if Denver has any safe areas of town anymore. Not to worried about Vail though.
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What’s the concern with the car being left on if it’s locked and no key or phone inside? If someone tries to break in and tried to drive off, it ain’t going anywhere without a key. It’ll shutoff.
Never tried it with the truck, but with the prius, once running, I can drive it anywhere without a key until I shut it off and then it won't start again. I'd be worried about one of those key cloning theft rings may be operating in the area.

Got a trip planned to Denver next month and I sure wouldn't want to have to make a police report for auto theft saying I left it running outside the motel all night!!! Plan to stop and eat at Casa Bonita there in a now not so nice area of town. I don't even know if Denver has any safe areas of town anymore. Not to worried about Vail though.
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I totally get that but whenever you lock the car and leave the car with no key in it when you return to the car if you try and shift or press the power button nor do anything if there’s no key, the car turns off
 

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Thank You! Well that blows... Can Ford fix it if I take it in? IE: It's broken?

Or can Forscan fix it?

How are people using this feature, leaving their truck's ON?
I have a set up similar when I travel to remote sites. My cooler/fridge pulls 150+ watts while is the bed of the truck.
At the remote sites, I set up the rooftop tent and an extension cord to power up my electronics, CPAP machine and the cooling fans. I have to have the truck on but I set up my screens into calm/dark mode. The kw consumption is reduced but the inverter has to stay on. I power the fridge with A/C.
A three nights, two full days at a remote sites usually consumes 35kw of battery. Lower the minimum your battery could be drained, usually at 50 miles range, and the truck will power your campsite with everything you need.
I have a 2022 Lariat and has worked great with my primitive camping trips.
Yes, the truck consumes less while is on to power up your appliances but if you’re careful with the consumption and the distance from home or the nearest charging stations, you can make it a stress free and comfortable experience.
Now my setup has evolved. I do carry an Anker Solix 3000 with the portable 400w solar panel which is practically enough to camp and just turn the truck off. You don’t have to do what I have done with the portable storage battery but it is another option if you drive yourself to really remote locations and need 100 miles to get out them sites and back where you can charge the truck.
Most of us have asked Ford why is this like this and can we change it.
Most of us got the same answer from Ford of how to set up the truck for continuous power to the outlets.
Also most of us asked Ford for a pet mode setup or OTA update for pet mode. Still waiting for that one, but there is a way around all that also.
Whatever makes you comfortable and the advice you’re getting from this forum, you will decide what plan you’re willing to follow.
Good luck.
 

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I have a set up similar when I travel to remote sites. My cooler/fridge pulls 150+ watts while is the bed of the truck.
At the remote sites, I set up the rooftop tent and an extension cord to power up my electronics, CPAP machine and the cooling fans. I have to have the truck on but I set up my screens into calm/dark mode. The kw consumption is reduced but the inverter has to stay on. I power the fridge with A/C.
A three nights, two full days at a remote sites usually consumes 35kw of battery. Lower the minimum your battery could be drained, usually at 50 miles range, and the truck will power your campsite with everything you need.
I have a 2022 Lariat and has worked great with my primitive camping trips.
Yes, the truck consumes less while is on to power up your appliances but if you’re careful with the consumption and the distance from home or the nearest charging stations, you can make it a stress free and comfortable experience.
Now my setup has evolved. I do carry an Anker Solix 3000 with the portable 400w solar panel which is practically enough to camp and just turn the truck off. You don’t have to do what I have done with the portable storage battery but it is another option if you drive yourself to really remote locations and need 100 miles to get out them sites and back where you can charge the truck.
Most of us have asked Ford why is this like this and can we change it.
Most of us got the same answer from Ford of how to set up the truck for continuous power to the outlets.
Also most of us asked Ford for a pet mode setup or OTA update for pet mode. Still waiting for that one, but there is a way around all that also.
Whatever makes you comfortable and the advice you’re getting from this forum, you will decide what plan you’re willing to follow.
Good luck.
You shouldn't have to carry a Anker Solix 3000. Our truck is the biggest portable battery on the market lol. Ford really needs to get this addressed with a camp mode and pet mode.

Come on @Ford Motor Company
 

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You shouldn't have to carry a Anker Solix 3000. Our truck is the biggest portable battery on the market lol. Ford really needs to get this addressed with a camp mode and pet mode.

Come on @Ford Motor Company
I agree. The Solix was part of another project that I set up for my camper for primitive camping sites. I can power my camper at sites with no electrical connections. Since I have the storage battery, I use it now camping with my rooftop tent and also I can use the truck’s battery to charge the Solix in less than an hour and turn the truck off.
Nonetheless I do agree, we should have by now a camp mode and a pet mode for our trucks. Most likely the hardware doesn’t allow it. Software is another story. Since Ford decided to discontinue the truck in its current form, (very disappointed with Ford), we may see a camp mode and a pet mode on the next EREV Lightning.
I am not holding my breath for Ford to download a camp mode on my Lightning. I figured other ways to deal with the shortcomings of the truck.
 

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I just did this over the weekend 3 days, 2 nights. I was camping and using pro power on board. I used the PPO to run my heated blanket in my roof top tent each night. I also used it to power my electric kettle, electric cooler and nespresso machine. I arrived at camp with 65% SOC and left this morning at 56% SOC. It got down in to the mid 30’s. I did get in my truck Saturday morning and out the heat on to get warmed up. Overall I was happy with the amount of power I used. However, constantly worrying about the PPO going out overnight sucks. Ford really needs to fix the minimum draw issue.

Glad it worked for you. My Case 1, 2, 3 is intended to quantify:
  • Case 2-1 parasitic power usage of unloaded DC/AC inverter. Note: the parasitic inverter usage will differ by circuit: cabin 2.4 kW vs. bed 9.6 kW
  • Case 3-2: Power savings in truck systems with truck OFF and power inverter ON.

9% usage over 48(h)? Do you have 123 kWh or 131 kWh? Were the AC outlets on the entire time? Which AC circuit (cabin or truck bed?)
  • 131 kWh * 0.09 / 48h = 246W
  • 123 kwh * 0.09 /48h = 231W

Your experience is a great user experience. There's not quite enough data to pinpoint truck's systems power usage for others. You were using the AC power as intended, but this obscures the metrics I suggested.
 

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Right? It seems like a proper dog mode that disabled the window switches and seat heaters would be pretty easy. But no
You know, it's funny...we occasionally get a Ford rep (engineer?) in these forums, and I've seen Dog Mode promised before. It can't be that hard, but why they won't do it is beyond me.
 

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Glad it worked for you. My Case 1, 2, 3 is intended to quantify:
  • Case 2-1 parasitic power usage of unloaded DC/AC inverter. Note: the parasitic inverter usage will differ by circuit: cabin 2.4 kW vs. bed 9.6 kW
  • Case 3-2: Power savings in truck systems with truck OFF and power inverter ON.

9% usage over 48(h)? Do you have 123 kWh or 131 kWh? Were the AC outlets on the entire time? Which AC circuit (cabin or truck bed?)
  • 131 kWh * 0.09 / 48h = 246W
  • 123 kwh * 0.09 /48h = 231W

Your experience is a great user experience. There's not quite enough data to pinpoint truck's systems power usage for others. You were using the AC power as intended, but this obscures the metrics I suggested.
I have the 131kwh battery. I did keep the truck turned off and used the outlets as intended.
 

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There is a FORscan tweak one can do to get that with the 2023's.

Enable Pro Power Onboard with truck off (2022-2023 only. Standard on 2024+).
Creates a Sync toggle in the Pro Power settings screen. See this post for operational details. This mod requires a PCM update that came out in early 2025 via FDRS. However, the Charge Port OTAs that came in early 2026 will also work (PT-25.13.12 and PT-25.8.5).
7D0-10-03 xxxx xx2x xx--
7D0-10-04 xxx* xxxx xx-- If 0, change to 8. If 4, change to C. If 6, change to E.
If you enabled the Advanced Charging Screen, you likely have a 6.

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/f150-lightning-forscan-thread-version-2.23634/
I have the PT-25.8.5 update but not PT-25.13.12, and doing the FORscan change did not work to enable pro power onboard with the truck off.

I suppose I need the second one PT-25.13.12...I guess I'll be getting it "SOON?"
 

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I have the PT-25.8.5 update but not PT-25.13.12, and doing the FORscan change did not work to enable pro power onboard with the truck off.

I suppose I need the second one PT-25.13.12...I guess I'll be getting it "SOON?"
25.8.5 should be the right one for the 2023 model year. 25.13.12 was for 2022s. According to the threads on those updates
 

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25.8.5 should be the right one for the 2023 model year. 25.13.12 was for 2022s. According to the threads on those updates
Yes, I saw that, too.

I have the 25.8.5 since February sometime, so I thought maybe the newer version was required because of a comment about the FORscan modification where it used "and"...

"This mod requires a PCM update that came out in early 2025 via FDRS. However, the Charge Port OTAs that came in early 2026 will also work (PT-25.13.12 and PT-25.8.5)."

So now I'll have to figure out why the FORscan mod didn't work on my truck.

I double checked that the change was there.

I wonder is there a delay before it shows up in the APP I wonder?

Or maybe it shows up in the truck menu when it says "Creates a Sync toggle in the Pro Power settings screen" and I have to toggle it there...that just occurred to me...my bad...dang!

Have to check in the truck menu tomorrow...alas.
 

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Yes, I saw that, too.

I have the 25.8.5 since February sometime, so I thought maybe the newer version was required because of a comment about the FORscan modification where it used "and"...

"This mod requires a PCM update that came out in early 2025 via FDRS. However, the Charge Port OTAs that came in early 2026 will also work (PT-25.13.12 and PT-25.8.5)."

So now I'll have to figure out why the FORscan mod didn't work on my truck.

I double checked that the change was there.

I wonder is there a delay before it shows up in the APP I wonder?

Or maybe it shows up in the truck menu when it says "Creates a Sync toggle in the Pro Power settings screen" and I have to toggle it there...that just occurred to me...my bad...dang!

Have to check in the truck menu tomorrow...alas.
Oh shoot, I thought the "operational details' page image was of the APP...must be a toggle in the truck menu! Argh!

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Oh shoot, I thought the "operational details' page image was of the APP...must be a toggle in the truck menu! Argh!

PPOB Toggle.webp
That’s because (unlike others) I like to post nice straight glare-free pictures of Sync. Its a compliment you thought it was an app screenshot. ;)

Good point on my note about OTAs. I’ll change “and” to “or”. One was for 23s and the other 22s.
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