2023 Lightning Lariat towing capacity

[Theredshift]

I have tandem.electric.brakes on trailer.and can control through truck so should be good

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[WXman]

Good to hear. Thanks for that info. So suspension is no different between the options? Only the trailer brake would need to be added?

That's what the guys here told me back when I asked that question. They say that the spring rate on the rear coils is identical on all Lightning trucks. The Max Towing package simply adds hill descent control (which has nothing to do with towing), rear locking diff (which usually has nothing to do with towing), an additional cooling loop to help keep the battery and motors cool, and a trailer brake controller. That's it.

So I just use my Curt Echo for a brake controller when I need it and keep an eye on my motor and battery temps and tow whatever I want.

 

[jwrezz]

That's what the guys here told me back when I asked that question. They say that the spring rate on the rear coils is identical on all Lightning trucks. The Max Towing package simply adds hill descent control (which has nothing to do with towing), rear locking diff (which usually has nothing to do with towing), an additional cooling loop to help keep the battery and motors cool, and a trailer brake controller. That's it.

So I just use my Curt Echo for a brake controller when I need it and keep an eye on my motor and battery temps and tow whatever I want.

Is the rear locker NOT the same as the locking differential option on the truck tab of my sync screen? Is hill descent control not another name for one pedal driving or "hold"?

 

[Theredshift]

That's what the guys here told me back when I asked that question. They say that the spring rate on the rear coils is identical on all Lightning trucks. The Max Towing package simply adds hill descent control (which has nothing to do with towing), rear locking diff (which usually has nothing to do with towing), an additional cooling loop to help keep the battery and motors cool, and a trailer brake controller. That's it.

So I just use my Curt Echo for a brake controller when I need it and keep an eye on my motor and battery temps and tow whatever I want.

Okay, question.
It says on my window sticker minus 650 for max tow package, which was for chip shortage based on what I've read, but, I have the trailer brake control and hill descent. sucks that they chip wad all I needed.

 

[Nwil10]

Is the rear locker NOT the same as the locking differential option on the truck tab of my sync screen? Is hill descent control not another name for one pedal driving or "hold"?

Hill descent control is like a cruise control for going down hills. It automatically engages the brakes. It's not as important for a lightning which will use regenerative braking (not use the actual brake pads) to reduce speed when going down hills as compared to ICE vehicles.

 

[RickLightning]

Hill descent control is like a cruise control for going down hills. It automatically engages the brakes. It's not as important for a lightning which will use regenerative braking (not use the actual brake pads) to reduce speed when going down hills as compared to ICE vehicles.

It actually controls each wheel separately I believe.

 

[WXman]

Hill descent control is for off road trail use. Has nothing to do with towing. Odd that they include it with the towing package.

 

[hturnerfamily]

correct, as there are only TWO differences between ANY of these models:
The BATTERY Size , and the second Dedicated CHILLER(if with the Max Tow option)

Since the only thing that really affects towing in the Max Towing Package is the extra cooling loop, it seems to me that if a guy watches his gauges and makes sure the battery and motors stay within range there is no reason not to tow up to 10,000 lbs. with any F-150 Lightning. Obviously you must have a trailer brake controller, but the truck itself should be just fine.

There is NO suspension difference, the trucks are built EXACTLY the same, all of them.

What does Ford say that affects the GVWR for Towing WEight capacity for each?
A)The BATTERY size
C)The extra second Dedicated CHILLER for that battery

Why?

1)The Battery Size dictates how much power can be supplied, under load, before internal battery temps reach/exceed optimal operating temperatures, potentially affecting the long-term capacity of the battery.
2)The Dedicated CHILLER creates the ADDITIONAL cooling capacity for the battery, to INCREASE it's power output under 'normal' operating conditions, under load. Thus giving each Battery pack about 50% + MORE Towing Load capacity.

It's all about HEAT management within the Battery pack.
There is no engine to strain
There is no transmission to strain
There is no difference in suspension capacity
There is no difference in the hitch capacity

 

[TaxmanHog]

It's all about HEAT management within the Battery pack.

And motors, the chilling process has a oil/glycol heat exchanger on each motor.

 

[Jseis]

You can enter your VIN in the following website for the truck's towing capacity. https://www.ford.com/support/towing-calculator

this is a good resource. Our ‘23 loaded Lariat comes in less than 10K. The tonneau, a few tools, loaded frunk, poles & nets, tackle boxes, a couple of 200+ pounders, cooler, and your under 9K at the blink of an eye (then there’s that double axle galvanized boat trailer with the ‘24 fiberglass Sea Swirl, w/50 gallons of fuel, 40 of water… and iced refreshments…) Matters in liability so I wouldn’t make a habit of overloading.

 

[jwrezz]

Hill descent control is like a cruise control for going down hills. It automatically engages the brakes. It's not as important for a lightning which will use regenerative braking (not use the actual brake pads) to reduce speed when going down hills as compared to ICE vehicles.

So does any f150 lightning have hill descent control?

 

[WXman]

Okay, question.
It says on my window sticker minus 650 for max tow package, which was for chip shortage based on what I've read, but, I have the trailer brake control and hill descent. sucks that they chip wad all I needed.

That was pretty common back in 2022 and 2023. I leased a 2022 Ram 1500 Laramie and it was missing the 400 watt inverter and a couple other things due to "chip shortage". It was frustrating because the credit they allowed for those things was no where remotely close to covering the cost of actually installing the stuff later.

 

[Nwil10]

So does any f150 lightning have hill descent control?

No, not all F150 Lightnings have hill descent control. It's locked to different packages (max tow has it in the 2025s).

 

[MountainAlive]

No, not all F150 Lightnings have hill descent control. It's locked to different packages (max tow has it in the 2025s).

Unless I’m not seeing it somewhere, my 2023 Lariat max tow does not seem to have hill decent control. Note that you also can’t use one pedal in off road mode. So maybe the solution when going down a steep off road decline is to switch to normal mode and then use one pedal to slow your roll. I hardly ever drive off road though so I’m far from an expert here.

 

[Northcaptain]

I tow a Kubota KX33 excavator (8000 pounds) on my gator 4 wheel trailer everyday and I'm at 10 000 lbs flush.

On the picture I had 1500 pounds on the tongue because of misplacement of the excavator (a little bit to close).

The Lightning Lariat 2025 behave marvelously. Of course i have the trailer option with electric brakes.

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