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MidAtlanticLightningClub
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Interesting. I've charged at several other FL state parks with no issue. I've never encountered a state park that didn't allow it. I even had one repair the broken 50A at my site so I could charge.
Firebelly
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5-15 - is 120V, no? With 120v you will always be on L1. Also, be aware that 30A RV sockets (TT-30) are 120V - so you will also be at L1 with that. Only way to get L2 is with a 50A RV socket (14-50R) and a 240V EVSE. We always make sure to rent a 50A site. Increasingly, more sites are 30/50... but not all.
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The 5-15 plug is a 15 amp (12 usable) 120 volt standard plug. Several people here have reported that by making a (DANGEROUS) 6-15 plug to 5-15R adapter, you can feed 240 volts to the 5-15 pigtail and get 240 volts at 12 amps using the Ford Mobile Charge Cord. That should get you close to a 3KW charge rate.
DANGER NOTE: Such an adapter is dangerous because it creates a 120 volt standard receptacle that will actually have 240 volts on it. Will likely blow up anything that can't actually handle 240 volts input. Only use this if you know what you are doing and make damn sure it does not get used for other products.
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Firebelly
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Reminds me of a time long ago when a friend of mine used 5-15 plugs to hook up the PA system for his rock band. They were cheap connectors and readily available. Made setup and takedown really quick. Up until the time that someone plugged one into 120V by mistake. Scared the shit out of everyone with the loudest 60Hz sound imaginable for about 5 seconds before it went up in smoke.
MidAtlanticLightningClub
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The real value is the ability to double your output on a 30A campsite outlet.
EV Engineer
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Easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. I have found the general public knows absolutely nothing about EV's and so you might get an easy answer of "no".
Get an EV charger that lets you downgrade the amperage so you don't knock some old timey RV park off the grid.
No one is going to know the difference between an AC running at 4-6kWH vs a EV charging.
Get an EV charger that lets you downgrade the amperage so you don't knock some old timey RV park off the grid.
No one is going to know the difference between an AC running at 4-6kWH vs a EV charging.
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MidAtlanticLightningClub
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Right. Oops.
SpaceEVDriver
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I’ve charged at many RV spots. I have been told “no” at a couple. My Ford-branded mobile L2 EVSE is limited to 30 Amps, so I don’t worry about tripping a 50A breaker, even at an old RV site. Some day when the supposed high rate of failures catches up with me, I’ll replace the Ford mobile with an adjustable rate EVSE so I can get to 50 Amps at the newer RV sites.
Firebelly
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I don't believe a 50A breaker will deliver 50A continuous, except under ideal conditions. And, you're only supposed to draw 80% - so 40A - with a continuous load like an EV.
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We charge at every campsite we stay at. I typically only plug it in after dark when everyone else's ACs and whatever else isn't drawing current, and then unplug it at ~7am when the kids get up and we start making breakfast.
The main concerns i've heard is that while each site may have a 30a 240v plug or whatever, that the whole system can't handle powering that all the time. So, that's why i only plug in once the campground folks are done their rounds, and once the overall power draw at the whole site is down considerably. Typically, around 10pm is late enough.
I also dangle a shirt or something over the truck charge port so it isn't flashing bright blue all the time, which helps folks not to notice. That, and park in a way so that it isn't super obvious that the truck is charging.
We run the trailer most times from our Ecoflow, so the powered site basically charges the truck up, tops up the ecoflow if solar wasn't enough, and can be a direct load if it's a scorcher and we need AC a ton.
The main concerns i've heard is that while each site may have a 30a 240v plug or whatever, that the whole system can't handle powering that all the time. So, that's why i only plug in once the campground folks are done their rounds, and once the overall power draw at the whole site is down considerably. Typically, around 10pm is late enough.
I also dangle a shirt or something over the truck charge port so it isn't flashing bright blue all the time, which helps folks not to notice. That, and park in a way so that it isn't super obvious that the truck is charging.
We run the trailer most times from our Ecoflow, so the powered site basically charges the truck up, tops up the ecoflow if solar wasn't enough, and can be a direct load if it's a scorcher and we need AC a ton.
MidAtlanticLightningClub
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A 50A breaker will deliver 50A continuous up until the moment it senses it is overloaded.
You are right that the maximum continuous load is 80% of a circuit's rating, so 40A. However, even that is pushing it.
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