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Has there been any mods where you can put the navigation address in while driving or enable car play wireless while exceeding the 1 mph or whatever it is? Some of these safety features are annoying.
 

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Police interceptor perimeter alert

https://www.fordservicecontent.com/...A&div=f&vFilteringEnabled=False&buildtype=web

In the interceptors there is a physical button but I imagine the rest is mostly FORSCAN changes. There is mention of sensors behind the bumper but I'm going to guess those are the same sensors as our parking sensors...

This would be a neat feature, even if not all that useful for most
Are you suggesting @GDN gain access to a Police interceptor, plug into the OBD2, load up Forscan and capture all of the modules for our benefit?

If so I just want to say that I really appreciate @GDN your commitment to the cause and I look forward to testing this on my truck when you obtain it. I will send you cigarettes as a token of my appreciation.
 

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Honestly, I think we can just get the vin for one and download the As Built files from the Motocraft site.

The question i have is if the SSV version of the Lightning has this, or if a deeper analysis of other platforms would be necissary
Where’s the fun in that?
 

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Are you suggesting @GDN gain access to a Police interceptor, plug into the OBD2, load up Forscan and capture all of the modules for our benefit?

If so I just want to say that I really appreciate @GDN your commitment to the cause and I look forward to testing this on my truck when you obtain it. I will send you cigarettes as a token of my appreciation.
You want me to put to put my you know what on the line to gain access to a Ford police car for a member of the 7/11 squad? That was a rough bunch. I don't know about that. I think it's going to take at lest 2 packs of cigarettes.
 

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And from your friendly ChatGPT - the TL: DR is a special wiring harness and special BCM software are required. That doesn't mean you can't side load it if you can get your hands on it. That would likely require @Jesse-Infotainment to have access.

From ChatGPT
The Ford Police Interceptor alarm system—including features like the dark car mode, horn/siren alarm, and surveillance mode—is specifically designed for law enforcement vehicles and is not typically available or functional on standard consumer Ford vehicles without significant modifications.

Here are a few reasons why:

1. Different Wiring and Modules
  • Police Interceptors come with special wiring harnesses, Body Control Modules (BCM), and software configurations that support law enforcement features.
  • Civilian Ford vehicles lack the necessary hardware and firmware to activate these features.
2. Software Limitations
  • Many of the Police Interceptor features are programmed through Ford’s proprietary software (like Ford IDS or Forscan), but even with access to these tools, the options for activating police-only features may be locked or unavailable on non-police VINs.
3. Siren/Alarm Integration
  • The external siren and alarm systems on Police Interceptors are aftermarket or special-order components, not part of the standard consumer vehicle package.
  • Civilians would need to install compatible sirens and speakers, and wire them into a control module.
In Summary:
You can’t simply activate the Police Interceptor alarm system on a regular Ford vehicle. To replicate similar functionality, you'd need to:

  • Install compatible hardware (sirens, speakers, wiring).
  • Reprogram the vehicle's BCM (which may not support it).
  • Use aftermarket control systems instead (a more practical route).
 
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Honestly, I think we can just get the vin for one and download the As Built files from the Motocraft site.

The question i have is if the SSV version of the Lightning has this, or if a deeper analysis of other platforms would be necissary
I have a few VINs laying around for 24 and 25 Pro's that have the SSV package. But it looks like it's more than configuration.
 

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I have a few VINs laying around for 24 and 25 Pro's that have the SSV package. But it looks like it's more than configuration.
Too bad!
I was all in on configuring the lightning for a jailbreak to bust @GDN out of jail!
220V jackhammer with a silencer and some extra thick chains…. Where do I take Amazon returns????
 

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Question, since I don't have my computer with FOSCAN handy. Can anyone dig into the install folder to see if they have the monitoring/sensor PIDs in plain text somewhere?

Using Notepad++ and searching the folder for "charger" or something similar may be a quick approach.

Thanks
Are you referring to the .bin files in the data folder (of install directory)?

If so, both charger and charge do not pull results from notepad++
 

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Man, correcting the speedometer for larger tires was the hardest FORScan entry I have attempted. Most likely due to trying (for the first time) the easy method first. Some of the YT videos show simply getting the overall tire circumference in mm from the online tire calculators but I had no luck.

When altering my "shown" new sizes, I would get DTC for P160. Then relearn PCM...and get a persistent P165 DTC. Reverted the easy step back to original size.

I ended up choosing a very close size I could find for my 35x11.50r18 tires (305/70/18) via the hex method, and no issues. Speedometer to GPS is within 0.50 MPH, close enough.

@bmwhitetx - on the front page, the link "As-built Method" under the " Change Tire Size for Speedometer Calibration" section seems to have been deleted from the forums, FYI.

I used the spreadsheet from this link to get my values - Spreadsheet-Calculator
 

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I don't trust easy mode for anything. I like to make the changes myself.
 

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I see you say it quite often, brother. Again, first time I ever tried the easy...mpphh, nope. All the other mods I've done, haven't had an unexpected result, until now.

I will drink your kool-aid :)
I've just seen too many instances on the forums of people using easy mode and having issues. I love me some FORScan and am a huge advocate for it, but if I can't see with my own eyes what it is changing and where, I'll take the extra few minutes it takes to just do it myself.
 

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Has anyone verified if easy mode increments the bits set amounts, or if the just change the bit to a set value?

I suppose it could be either
No idea. It will just do whatever the FORScan engineers scripted it to do when you click that button. Not sure if it records a changelog of what it does. I've never used it.
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