Preferred charge times - not working randomly

[TaxmanHog]

Sounding like corruption of charging scheme GPS positioning coordinates.
My charging to a limited SOC% has been fine as of the recent OTA's I've recv'd to date, snap shot for posterity since this data will change in my SIG months down the road as newer OTA's post after my statement today.

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[chl]

Sounding like corruption of charging scheme GPS positioning coordinates.
My charging to a limited SOC% has been fine as of the recent OTA's I've recv'd to date, snap shot for posterity since this data will change in my SIG months down the road as newer OTA's post after my statement today.

A GPS glitch could be a weak 12v battery issue.
Could be a bug from a recent OTA software update as well.

The cold weather charge port updates (25.13.12 - 2022 MY and 25.8.5 - 2023+MY) could be involved with some of the issues some of us have been having with the PPOB reserve acting strange - set level not reached but PPOB cuts off.

My PPOB reserve behaved normally until this last update.
Another post mentioned the same issue after the update, and also issue with the charge stations settings.
Yesterday during a test it shut off long before the reserve was reached.

I don't exactly know why, but since the 25.8.5 update is a prerequisite for the PPOB when truck is off FORscan tweak, it must be involved with PPOB somehow.

The documentation/explanation we get with updates is never very detailed about all the things it may affect.

The PPOB reserve can be set to be the distance to a nearby charging station instead of a selected mileage, so that seems to be the connection between the PPOB reserve and the charge station issue.

If the cold weather charge port change is connected to stored charge stations somehow in the programming, maybe that ties them all together...and where the update glitch originates.

Oh Ford, why...why?

PS: I did also recently get this: SYNC-25.2.1.6.5.2 but hard to imagine how that would have anything to do with the PPOB? I don't even have SiriusXM capability on my 2023 Pro:

"This software update contains the following key changes:

• We’ve made some disk space enhancements to ensure optimal performance of your vehicle’s SiriusXM service (if applicable)."

 

[TaxmanHog]

OTA's have been known to include "undocumented" changes in the past, who knows for sure what they packed into some of these recent changes.

 

[chl]

OTA's have been known to include "undocumented" changes in the past, who knows for sure what they packed into some of these recent changes.

Too true alas.

I haven't noticed any issue with the charge time scheduling.

But the PPOB reserve issue will be a problem if I ever need it for house backup during an outage.
Seems like I will have to set it for the nearest charging station by going to one and using it briefly, the workaround @dmd3home used in:

https://www.f150lightningforum.com/forum/threads/pro-power-reserve-limit-fails.35984/

 

[Laphuks]

Maybe it's the charge rate/Amps, a slower lower amp charge with the mobile power cord gives the 12v battery more time to charge more fully.

I use the FCSP at 32A now unless I need a faster charge for some reason.

I never had the timer glitches, but I keep my 12v battery on a maintainer daily when not driving around. I started doing that a while after an OTA 6 months after I got the truck would not install due to a low SOC of the 12v battery.

I did have an update interrupt a charging session because they were set to occur at the same time and the OTA won.

I had at least one update erase my charge settings for home, but those are in the truck, not the FCSP.

The FSCP did lose some "insights" charge history data one time after and update - I had already recorded it - and I can't put my finger on how that happened. The max charge limit setting was also changed, maybe it was an update to the FCSP software or firmware.

It would be nice if when Ford does their update, the old data could be preserved, alas.

The FCSP is just a smart switch really, it takes it's orders from the truck about when to charge and when to stop, the current limit is the only thing that can be set with a limit switch or software using the APP in the FCSP.

So if the truck's timer is messed up, it's not the FCSP's fault, it's the truck.

Now that's not to say the FCSP is without some glitches too - I've had it fault for no apparent reason when is was not even doing anything, maybe a utility glitch? I don't know. But a reset with the house breaker always reset it. Now and then the communication would be lost between the FCSP and the APP, but it always came back after an hour or two. I know folks with the HIS have a lot of trouble with the FCSP and the BlueTooth communications,I'm not in that boat luckily.

Plenty of weird glitches seem to happen when the 12v battery is deeply discharged or on its last legs. That is the truck's 12v battery management's fault. Sometimes it is the fault of some electrical problem in the truck, like a short or a bad component draining the battery.

A lot of things can go wrong in the truck, and they do now and then.
Ghosts in the machine.

The ford charging station pro work fine with me for about 6 months, then the timer issues started. Then after about 15 months the charger didn't work. Ford replaced it, now everything works fine, including the timer setup in the truck. The charger is installed on my driveway, when electrician open it, water came out. The charger got damaged by water.

 

[chl]

The ford charging station pro work fine with me for about 6 months, then the timer issues started. Then after about 15 months the charger didn't work. Ford replaced it, now everything works fine, including the timer setup in the truck. The charger is installed on my driveway, when electrician open it, water came out. The charger got damaged by water.

Wow, that's a shame.

I've heard about water intrusion before when mounted outdoors - one reason why I mounted mine inside the garage where it can reach the truck in the driveway is to avoid any possibility of that.

Water and electronics are not a good mix. And the FCSP can be finicky enough when it's dry.

If if the installation instructions are followed carefully, it should not happen - having the right water seals on the conduit is crucial as is being sure the gasket seats properly when closing the housing back up.

Hope it lasts for you!

So much in the truck relies on a good 12v system with a good fully charged 12v battery and good wiring/connectors, and fully tested and debugged software...unfortunately, Ford has dropped the ball on those in many ways.

When everything is working, the truck is awesome.

 

[scruvs]

I don't know if this is helpful or off topic, but I changed (upgraded) my Ford Connected Charge Station to an EMPORIA Level 2 EV Charger a few months ago and wish I did it earlier because I now I'm done fumbling with charge times.

I prefer to charge off peak for a minimal Duke energy charge credit. I feel like I could not get Ford to consistently charge at the right time despite trying many ways to manage the charge times. And, even when it did work, I was anxious about whether it was going to work properly or not.

I purchased a second EV (Chevy Equinox EV) and it has its own way of managing preferred charge times. I disconnected by Ford charger and installed the Emporia because I was going to move the Ford charger to my office and charge the EVs at home on the Emporia. I did not end up hooking up the Ford charger at the office, but I am so excited that I changed chargers at home and am happy that the Ford charger is on the shelf.

The programmable charge times within the Emporia App work great. The charge cord is five feet longer and can easily reach both vehicles.

But, I say all this to say, I wish I spent the $430 earlier and got the Emporia earlier because I never have to worry about charge times again. That alone was worth it even if I never save $430 in Duke energy credits.

Now, who wants to buy a used Ford Connected Charge Station...

 

[chl]

I don't know if this is helpful or off topic, but I changed (upgraded) my Ford Connected Charge Station to an EMPORIA Level 2 EV Charger a few months ago and wish I did it earlier because I now I'm done fumbling with charge times.

I prefer to charge off peak for a minimal Duke energy charge credit. I feel like I could not get Ford to consistently charge at the right time despite trying many ways to manage the charge times. And, even when it did work, I was anxious about whether it was going to work properly or not.

I purchased a second EV (Chevy Equinox EV) and it has its own way of managing preferred charge times. I disconnected by Ford charger and installed the Emporia because I was going to move the Ford charger to my office and charge the EVs at home on the Emporia. I did not end up hooking up the Ford charger at the office, but I am so excited that I changed chargers at home and am happy that the Ford charger is on the shelf.

The programmable charge times within the Emporia App work great. The charge cord is five feet longer and can easily reach both vehicles.

But, I say all this to say, I wish I spent the $430 earlier and got the Emporia earlier because I never have to worry about charge times again. That alone was worth it even if I never save $430 in Duke energy credits.

Now, who wants to buy a used Ford Connected Charge Station...

I take it people have having trouble with the scheduled charge times.

Are you using the truck SYNC menu to set the times?

Or are you using the FORD app to do the scheduling and having issues?

I initially set my times up with the SYNC menu in the truck and haven't had any issues except when an OTA update erased them and the station (HOME) information from the truck, and I had to reenter it.

Why are you blaming the EVSE? It is the truck that keeps track of the charge times for a particular location, e.g., HOME.

What am I missing?

 

[scruvs]

Why are you blaming the EVSE? It is the truck that keeps track of the charge times for a particular location, e.g., HOME.

What am I missing?

Not blaming the EVSE…Just thankful that I bought an EVSE that handles scheduling better than the Ford truck scheduling.

Now I can easily start, stop, control, adjust, and handle exceptions (like Good Friday recently, which needed to follow the weekend schedule) through the EVSE app.

 

[chl]

Not blaming the EVSE…Just thankful that I bought an EVSE that handles scheduling better than the Ford truck scheduling.

Now I can easily start, stop, control, adjust, and handle exceptions (like Good Friday recently, which needed to follow the weekend schedule) through the EVSE app.

Oh I see, yes the truck scheduling is limited, but all I need is to limit the times to off-peak 1am-5am to keep the costs down...I ignore the holidays.

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