F-150 Lightning to gain access to Tesla Superchargers! Get standard NACS port starting 2025!

[TaxmanHog]

Taxman, do you have guess on pricing for either?

No information as of now.

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[Texas Dan]

The CCS1 to CCS2 adapter originally sold for more than $2k but now you can get one on eBay for less than $400. I can easily see people paying $2k+ when the NACS to CCS1 adapter first comes out but prices should drop quickly if Tesla doesn’t restrict production. Since Tesla still owns the NACS patents, they can easily control prices and production with the royalty fees they impose on the adapter production.

 

[Zprime29]

Just like we mentioned, 3rd party charging providers are starting to make plans to provide NACS plugs.

https://electrek.co/2023/05/30/freewire-ford-and-tesla-vows-to-add-nacs-connectors-chargers-ev/

The ball is indeed rolling.

 

[Amps]

I can easily see people paying $2k+ when the NACS to CCS1 adapter first comes out but prices should drop quickly if Tesla doesn’t restrict production. Since Tesla still owns the NACS patents, they can easily control prices and production with the royalty fees they impose on the adapter production.

CCS1 to NACS 250kW adapters are going to $90 and less on eBay. What is your source that Tesla can control prices and production on a completely open standard?

 

[Zprime29]

Since Tesla still owns the NACS patents, they can easily control prices and production with the royalty fees they impose on the adapter production.

Maybe you aren't aware, but Tesla is no longer requiring payment for using the NACS. It's available free on their website. Per their release statement:
" As a purely electrical and mechanical interface agnostic to use case and communication protocol, NACS is straightforward to adopt. The design and specification files are available for download, ..."

 

[Tony Burgh]

CCS1 to NACS 250kW adapters are going to $90 and less on eBay. What is your source that Tesla can control prices and production on a completely open standard?

Is there an adapter available to purchase for the other way around? That would allow me to DCFC the Lightning at a Tesla NACS SC?

 

[Pioneer74]

Is there an adapter available to purchase for the other way around? That would allow me to DCFC the Lightning at a Tesla NACS SC?

Not yet. Wish there was. We just drove to North Chicago from Toledo. Was painfull driving past all the Supercharger sites on the Indiana toll road and not having access to the sites up by Waukegan. This is a charging desert up here. Fastest EA site in the area has all the chargers derated and are averaging 64kW.

 

[Amps]

Is there an adapter available to purchase for the other way around? That would allow me to DCFC the Lightning at a Tesla NACS SC?

That will be the type of adapter that is going to be made available by Ford/Tesla/Somebody in 2024.

My point was about adapter pricing speculation in the quoted post. The NACS standard is now open source. Tesla sells their own CCS1 to NACS adapters for $175. Knockoffs are going for $90. Currently, a NACS to CCS1 adapter is useless until Tesla allows Ford EVs into their billing and authorization system to initiate the charge.

(Magic Dock equipped NACS to CCS1 dispensers are a locking Tesla proprietary version of the NACS standard.)

 

[Kev12345]

The CCS1 to CCS2 adapter originally sold for more than $2k but now you can get one on eBay for less than $400. I can easily see people paying $2k+ when the NACS to CCS1 adapter first comes out but prices should drop quickly if Tesla doesn’t restrict production. Since Tesla still owns the NACS patents, they can easily control prices and production with the royalty fees they impose on the adapter production.

Cheaper priced adaptor = more revenue at the superchargers. Can’t see it being anything more than $300.

 

[Tony Burgh]

That will be the type of adapter that is going to be made available by Ford/Tesla/Somebody in 2024.

My point was about adapter pricing speculation in the quoted post. The NACS standard is now open source. Tesla sells their own CCS1 to NACS adapters for $175. Knockoffs are going for $90. Currently, a NACS to CCS1 adapter is useless until Tesla allows Ford EVs into their billing and authorization system to initiate the charge.

(Magic Dock equipped NACS to CCS1 dispensers are a locking Tesla proprietary version of the NACS standard.)

So I would need both correct adapter AND Tesla account? Sorry, I should have known this.

 

[greenne]

So I would need both correct adapter AND Tesla account? Sorry, I should have known this.

I think Ford is going to add the Tesla Superchargers to the Blue Oval Charge Network. IN that case, all the payment would be handled by the Connected Services/Charge network app using the CC on file. I am hoping this would mean thatthe superchargers will be plug and charge capable-- no use of the Tesla app required.

 

[TaxmanHog]

The Nxu take on this.....

fka Atlis MV (AMV)

 

[Pioneer74]

The Nxu take on this.....

fka Atlis MV (AMV)

I tried to watch it. I really did. But they have a conversation about everything and come to no conclusions and just ramble.

And the microphone placements are annoying.

 

[shutterbug]

Cheaper priced adaptor = more revenue at the superchargers. Can’t see it being anything more than $300.

I'm guessing $2,100 but it's only good for 3 years. After that $1,000 a year

 

[GDN]

I'm guessing $2,100 but it's only good for 3 years. After that $1,000 a year

Unfortunately it seems Ford and the legacy makers are the ones that really want to get on this milk your auto forever with purchases.

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