F150 Lightning FORScan thread - Version 2

[Henry Ford]

Did you have the enhanced charging option enabled already?

I think so, but it's not something I was aware of since I rarely charge away from home.

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[shoopg]

So I got the toggle enabled on my '23 Pro. I plugged in a space heater to one of the bed outlets, turned it on, then turned off the truck and the power to the bed outlets also turned off.

I tried multiple times but each time the bed outlets turned off. Am I missing something?

EDIT: I also tried turning on the power using the green button on the PPO panel in the bed but that did not work either.

You may need some FDRS updates. Its fully working on my 2022. My outlets stayed on with the truck off. There is a timeout period though and it'll lock out the green button if pro power and the truck are both off for long enough.

My truck went to the dealer in June for some HV and warranty work which included an IPMA update. They may have just updated everything while they were in there because I haven't done any FDRS updates myself.

 

[BhamDCam]

You may need some FDRS updates. Its fully working on my 2022. My outlets stayed on with the truck off. There is a timeout period though and it'll lock out the green button if pro power and the truck are both off for long enough.

My truck went to the dealer in June for some HV and warranty work which included an IPMA update. They may have just updated everything while they were in there because I haven't done any FDRS updates myself.

I was afraid it might be something like that. I don't have access to FDRS and have no idea what modules are updated vs. not. I also added the WAL toggle but it is greyed out so I don't think I have the latest updates required for that either.

Should I revert the changes I made back to my original values? Could it hurt anything leaving it as is?

 

[shoopg]

I was afraid it might be something like that. I don't have access to FDRS and have no idea what modules are updated vs. not. I also added the WAL toggle but it is greyed out so I don't think I have the latest updates required for that either.

Should I revert the changes I made back to my original values? Could it hurt anything leaving it as is?

I think its fine to leave it. Mine was all zeros before I made any changes so I think its a previously unused block for our APIMs atleast. I've left my changes in to enable the advanced charge settings even though its not working for 12" SYNC yet.

 

[bmwhitetx]

@BhamDCam @Henry Ford @shoopg (and anyone else who got it to work or not)
Could you DM me your VIN? I would like to take a look at software versions you have for a few modules to see why it works for some and not others. TIA!

 

[BhamDCam]

@BhamDCam @Henry Ford @shoopg (and anyone else who got it to work or not)
Could you DM me your VIN? I would like to take a look at software versions you have for a few modules to see why it works for some and not others. TIA!

Sent.

 

[flyin525]

My guess is it needs the updates 10.3 included which has yet to be released to the masses. I never received it either.

 

[bmwhitetx]

Thanks to @shoopg @21st Century Truck @PJnc284 @flyin525 @BhamDCam @Henry Ford for sending me their VINs. As stated by @Jesse-Infotainment, it is important to have the latest software for the PPO mod to work.

In this case I believe it is the PCM module. While each of these trucks has different PCMs, the PCM is often packaged with other modules like ABS and BECM. These latter two show a clear difference between trucks where this mod works and it does not. Further the service manual indicates that PPO is furnished by the DCACA and DCACB modules but controlled by the PCM. Everyone has the same DCACx versions so that's good. Also everyone is on the latest SYNC (which is probably a prerequisite also).

So for this mod to work you need the latest PCM update that is likely available for your truck. It's probably the one that became available March 2.

I will update post 1 to include this mod with some notes.

 

[shoopg]

Thanks to @shoopg @21st Century Truck @PJnc284 @flyin525 @BhamDCam @Henry Ford for sending me their VINs. As stated by @Jesse-Infotainment, it is important to have the latest software for the PPO mod to work.

In this case I believe it is the PCM module. While each of these trucks has different PCMs, the PCM is often packaged with other modules like ABS and BECM. These latter two show a clear difference between trucks where this mod works and it does not. Further the service manual indicates that PPO is furnished by the DCACA and DCACB modules but controlled by the PCM. Everyone has the same DCACx versions so that's good. Also everyone is on the latest SYNC (which is probably a prerequisite also).

So for this mod to work you need the latest PCM update that is likely available for your truck. It's probably the one that became available March 2.

I will update post 1 to include this mod with some notes.

Awesome info, thanks for doing the work to compare.

 

[BhamDCam]

Thanks @bmwhitetx. So I’m guessing the only way to get the update you referenced is via FDRS? Or to just wait until I get the OTA update?

 

[flyin525]

Thanks @bmwhitetx. So I’m guessing the only way to get the update you referenced is via FDRS? Or to just wait until I get the OTA update?

Theres no OTA that I have seen for that yet. That could change at any time of course but FDRS best option now.

 

[lightning-spark]

Always like to confirm FORScan changes before adding to post 1. So looking at my database of As-Builts:

7D0-10-03 xxxx xx2x xx--
All 22-23's have a 0, all 24-25's have a 2.
So you would be changing 0 to 2. According to the 24 spreadsheet, this enables "PPO Outlets On in Vehicle Off State".

7D0-10-04 xxxC xxxx xx--
Almost all 22-23's have a 4, most 24's have a C and 25's have a E.
So you would change 4 to C. According to the 24 spreadsheet, this changes "PPO Utility Idle" from Version 1 (MY23 and earlier) to Version 2 (MY24 and beyond).
If your 22-23 has a 0 that means the Sync feature to Record Feedback is disabled. This was an OTA you likely didn't get.
EDIT: The difference between C and E is that 2025's also have the Advanced Charging Screen.

Note that Jesse says the the truck should be fully updated. I will wait for several 22-23's to confirm the toggle appears AND the functionality works before adding to my Forscan mods page. If it doesn't work, you might check your Sync version (Settings..General..About Sync). I think the most current is 25094. I would imagine there might be another module or two that is also needed.

Reminder, this does not apply to 2024 and newer. You already have this!

First off thanks @bmwhitetx for all that you do here!

I was excited to try this because I really want and need this feature. But after enabling it and having PPO on when the vehicle is off. I have an issue with the Pro Power reserve settings slider not working in manual. The slider slides and the arrows work but the numbers don't move up or stick. The default or nearest charger only allows 15 or 20 km's. Normally I set it for over 100 km's because I need it. 23 Lariat with all the modules updated in June of this year.

7D0-10-03 xxxx xx2x xx-- was 0 changed to 2 and 7D0-10-04 xxxC xxxx xx-- was 0 and changed to C.

Can anyone help me out with this one please?

 

[bmwhitetx]

Thanks @bmwhitetx. So I’m guessing the only way to get the update you referenced is via FDRS? Or to just wait until I get the OTA update?

I'm not sure I've ever rec'd a PCM update OTA. But yeah, if Ford decides to give 22-23 owners this functionality as promised and it requires a PCM as I believe, then a PCM OTA will need to happen.

That's a lot of ifs.

Personally I think they need to address the power off after 6 minutes issue before rolling it out.

 

[bmwhitetx]

But after enabling it and having PPO on when the vehicle is off. I have an issue with the Pro Power reserve settings slider not working in manual.

@PJnc284 @shoopg @21st Century Truck and others - are you seeing this behavior with the PPO reserve sliders not working now? I verified via DM that @lightning-spark has updated modules and he sees the "Keep On When Vehicle is Off" toggle. But apparently the reserve sliders no longer work for him.

 

[BhamDCam]

@PJnc284 @shoopg @21st Century Truck and others - are you seeing this behavior with the PPO reserve sliders not working now? I verified via DM that @lightning-spark has updated modules and he sees the "Keep On When Vehicle is Off" toggle. But apparently the reserve sliders no longer work for him.

Mine did that too during one of my attempts this afternoon but after restarting my truck the slider worked again.

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