75,000 miles on my ‘23 Lariat ER pulling a bunch of trailers.
You have no real evidence and neither do I. Ford possibly has detailed studies, but they don't seem to be talking . You have only your opinion that you state as fact, when we do not know the actual facts. I do not state my option as my experience, not unequivocal fact as many that don't like 1PD so. You prefer 2PD, fine by me. I prefer otherwise and have seen consistent results that vary fromy use of 2PD driving no matter how carefully I used 2PD. I will stay with 1PD and continue to state my experience asy experience and results. You do however you like.
Anecdotal evidence and logic support what @swajames is saying.
That is part of the point. The tuning of of each mode is likely not the same, but we don't have that data, therefore it is not logical to assume they are exactly the same. 100% could easily mean 100% of possible recovery for that driving mode or that tuning. As for anecdotal data, that is exact what it is, and exactly my data as well. My anecdotal data says 1PD is clearly more efficient for my circumstances. With that said, for all we know use case seems likely has some effect. But anecdotal data is very limited in usefulness. Regardless, 1PD simplifies using regenerative braking. It takes some practice on feathering the accelerator so you don't get sudden changes in braking, but once mastered is much easier IMHO. FWIW, I think it's probably that sudden shifting in braking is what bothers most people. I can understand people going back and forth between 1PD and gas vehicle that doesn't have it being bothered by shifting between driving modes.
Hahahaha, like you are all knowing, can't be wrong. Seems you were describing yourself. You have ZERO real data. Just ancestral, which is suspect.
Hahahaha, like you are all knowing, can't be wrong. Seems you were describing yourself. You have ZERO real data. Just ancestral, which is suspect. And to show just how good your observations are, I barely participate here, so your "explained several times" nicely demonstrates the reliability of your anecdotal data.
If the exact same truck slows from the same speed on the same stretch of road at the same temperature but uses a different amount of energy depending on whether it's in one pedal or two pedal mode, where has the extra energy gone?
As I stated multiple times, personal experience and use case which is mostly suburban driving. Long distance highway travel I can see being different. And yes conservation of energy. Using 2PD and regeneration at "100%", the deceleration "feels" substantially less than if you fully release the accelerator while using 1PD. If this is in fact the case, then this strongly suggests that 1PD is returning more energy due to that conservation of energy. But to be fair, I have to quantifiable way to measure this. Again, for me it has been positive for my use case, and much easier to get best potential iMHO. But people making statements like their opinion is absolute facts, are well suspect at best
That is your assumption that both modes are the same capabilities. We have nothing to back that up. Seeming differences in apped of deceleration between modes at "100%" suggest they aren't in fact the same. But again, I have no way to measure that, and is in fact anecdotal. Just know my personal use case, I got substantially better in 1PD.
No one is claiming universally one is better than the other, nor did I claim you should be getting similar results. I said the truck is capable of it. How about this, using an OBDII reader we record the energy flowing into the battery from fully lifting off the pedal and compare that to the energy flowing in while using the brake pedal. That would definitively prove the truck's capability. Whether or not we take full advantage of the capability is irrelevant. It's there for those to want to strive for it.
