Thanks Ford for the improved hands-on-wheel detection; Advanced Driver Assistance System update (24-PU0105-CMR-FX)

[PJnc284]

I wouldn't expect a miracle. I've manually updated my 23 with pretty much every update available and the hands-on detection is still mediocre at best. That's why a lot of us have said forget ford and just went the comma 3x route.

Came ota? What module did it update? It's annoying to me too both when I am actually holding the wheel and when I'm not

CMR based on the update name which is the camera module rear. Seems to be the driver monitoring camera

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[Tom Jensen]

I received this update on my ’24 Flash a few days ago and since then have been very pleased to experience a much improved hands-on-wheel detection setting when the cruise control is engaged. Now the pressure necessary to satisfy the sensor is just right. At least for me, resting even just one hand on the spoke with a very slight pressure on it is enough to keep from being nagged. Kudos to Ford for making improvements like this along the way of my ownership.

I hope to see this change in my ‘23 Lariat. One of my regular drives involves about 50 miles (in a couple of segments) of absolutely straight highway. Unless there’s a crosswind or obstacle of some sort, one doesn’t need to move the wheel at all to stay safe and true.

 

[G-Zeus]

Hope I get this too. Ding Dong Ding Dong DongDongDongDong, jerk wheel is my biggest annoyance with the truck!

Mine is the constant request to keep eyes on the road - they ARE on the road!

 

[Firn]

I doubt they will ever get it light enough for Me. I spent 1,000s hours flying Hueys and, after hundreds of hours, when I was on the cyclic flying, you would never see that cyclic visibly move (pilot technique) especially at hover when added lift was so valuable. You can actually “think’ movement when you are one with the aircraft.

I drive the same way, my kids were always amazed that going down the interstate it would appear the wheel never moved unlike their mother who was constantly moving the wheel left and right Even when going it a straight line.

The damn hands on the wheel drives me crazy because I have to “make” added inputs all the time when they just aren’t needed. In a Huey, and less so in a car, every one of those movements waste energy. In the huey that meant added lift and you could fly closer to the edge. 250lps of lift was really valuable. The added lift meant more ammo and supplies delivered or, even more importantly, that was one of our guys I could carry out of a PZ.

I have to be honest, mine is incredibly sensitive to touch. Nothing more than a finger tips worth of effort disables the nag.

That said, I don't have BC or Adaptive cruise with lane centering. I will occasionally get the "Keep hands on wheel" nag just driving with cruise on. But always just a breath of pressure on the wheel has it go away. And I mean that literally, my normal driving is left arm on the window sill, steering with the two or three fingertips on the wheel, very very rarely do I get the nag and only if the road conditions were just right, a "straight" road isnt enough in itself usually

 

[roddiaz1]

Come to think of it, I made a long trip to Ithaca, NY last weekend and I didn't the perpetually annoying warning to re-take control of the steering wheel (while holding it the whole time). Must have gotten the update at some point.
Which begs the question, weren't we suppose to be able to see our software update history somewhere? What ever happened to that?

 

[Muffin_Man]

Come to think of it, I made a long trip to Ithaca, NY last weekend and I didn't the perpetually annoying warning to re-take control of the steering wheel (while holding it the whole time). Must have gotten the update at some point.
Which begs the question, weren't we suppose to be able to see our software update history somewhere? What ever happened to that?

Good question, can't find this info in the app or web interface. Anyone?

 

[Old Aviator]

I'm just a Cessna jockey, but I agree that having to move the wheel when no steering adjustment is necessary is really annoying!

I also flew airplanes Cessna 150, 172, 310, cherokee 6, Apache, and got an hour or so of stick time in and OV-10 and a C-141. Also have about 50 hours in T34A, the only airplane I ever flew that had a stick and not a yoke. I soloed in a OH-13 and then flew UH-1A and Bs in flight school to get my wings and then on to Cobra Hall to learn to fly AH-1G Cobras. In SE Asian War games (First Runner-up) I flew Cobras and UH-1Hs, Ds and C model gunships.

And I went into the Army as a Draftee in March 1968, tested for the WORWAC school and finally got into Flight school the day I graduated from Advanced Infantry training as an 11B-10 (that’s the straight leg infantry). I made a promise to the Sergeant who got me those orders to never forget the guys on the ground because I was one one of then. Promise made promise kept!

Harry Reasoner once said this about helicopters on the CBS evening news.
The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

 

[bmwhitetx]

Come to think of it, I made a long trip to Ithaca, NY last weekend and I didn't the perpetually annoying warning to re-take control of the steering wheel (while holding it the whole time). Must have gotten the update at some point.
Which begs the question, weren't we suppose to be able to see our software update history somewhere? What ever happened to that?

Good question, can't find this info in the app or web interface. Anyone?

Sign in to your Ford account on the web. It’s there under Technology. Originally was only 90 days, but my list shows updates back to March ‘25.

https://www.ford.com/support/software-update-release-notes-history/

 

[Muffin_Man]

Sign in to your Ford account on the web. It’s there under Technology. Originally was only 90 days, but my list shows updates back to March ‘25.

https://www.ford.com/support/software-update-release-notes-history/

Thanks!

 

[Sgt. Carter]

I also flew airplanes Cessna 150, 172, 310, cherokee 6, Apache, and got an hour or so of stick time in and OV-10 and a C-141. Also have about 50 hours in T34A, the only airplane I ever flew that had a stick and not a yoke. I soloed in a OH-13 and then flew UH-1A and Bs in flight school to get my wings and then on to Cobra Hall to learn to fly AH-1G Cobras. In SE Asian War games (First Runner-up) I flew Cobras and UH-1Hs, Ds and C model gunships.

And I went into the Army as a Draftee in March 1968, tested for the WORWAC school and finally got into Flight school the day I graduated from Advanced Infantry training as an 11B-10 (that’s the straight leg infantry). I made a promise to the Sergeant who got me those orders to never forget the guys on the ground because I was one one of then. Promise made promise kept!

Harry Reasoner once said this about helicopters on the CBS evening news.
The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Sign in to your Ford account on the web. It’s there under Technology. Originally was only 90 days, but my list shows updates back to March ‘25.

https://www.ford.com/support/software-update-release-notes-history/

Mine too, IIRC they said something to the effect that the history would 'eventually' go further back in time as more updates post, 5+ months for my truck.

 

[lightningfella]

Come to think of it, I made a long trip to Ithaca, NY last weekend and I didn't the perpetually annoying warning to re-take control of the steering wheel (while holding it the whole time). Must have gotten the update at some point.
Which begs the question, weren't we suppose to be able to see our software update history somewhere? What ever happened to that?

I got this update on my 24 Flash a week ago and the annoying, nagging alerts are much better now. I mainly drive highway/freeway 90% of the time and on my 54 mile daily commute I get hardly any alerts now.

 

[Literider150]

Agreed...noticed the enhanced hands on detection (or reduction in force for detection)...it used to be I had to jerk the wheel hard enough for the truck to actually change course to "recognize" my hands...now it is just a slight tap.

Try using the Blue Cruise. It's even more sensitive than without. That's when I had an easy decision not to pay the monthly fee for that even though my '24 Flash is capable. Wonder if this update mitigated the sensitivity of Assisted Cruise when using Blue Cruise as well.

 

[efme]

I have the "driver alert" toggle off and it doesn't seem to do anything

 

[rugedraw]

Funny how these "older" updates are suddenly finding their way to the mid-generation Lightnings 23+ where it was not already baked into the model year code.

Well, there is a new CMR update that popped up in FDRS first for the Mach E and also for the Lightning. I wonder if this is the new version and Ford used the same OTA name?

Harry Reasoner once said this about helicopters on the CBS evening news.
The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by its nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces and controls working in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously. There is no such thing as a gliding helicopter.

I have zero experience with any of this. The most complicated thing I've even flown is a 2-handed kite, and this makes perfect sense to me.

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