Ford EVSE finally installed

[TaxmanHog]

You need to use some 30 second cleaner on that vinyl siding.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/30-Seconds-64-oz-Outdoor-Ready-To-Spray-Cleaner-6430SJ/305771180

Thanks for the reminder, I need to pick up some myself, the north side of our house has some too, it's been bugging me for a while, gonna git'r done today.

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[Rayden]

I had the Ford Connected 48 amp charge station installed yesterday. Works as it should and, to no surprise, much faster than the included mobile cord.
I did use public charging twice while waiting for the install, mainly just to get the process down. One time at Electrify America and one time at a Tesla station. The rest was done at home with the mobile cord.

The electrician found some room in the main 100 amp panel, luckily, because he said there wasn’t enough power in the sub panel to make it work.

I seem to be following right behind you, Highpi. Only had my truck for about 3 weeks now and have only been using the small plug in charger so far, with a couple of top offs at a charge station near my work. I haven't gotten moving yet on getting an installation done b/c I'm not sure what size line I should be getting, nor what charger to get. I'm not planning on using the truck to power my house, so I don't think that the FCSP is necessarily the best option.

 

[Highpi]

I seem to be following right behind you, Highpi. Only had my truck for about 3 weeks now and have only been using the small plug in charger so far, with a couple of top offs at a charge station near my work. I haven't gotten moving yet on getting an installation done b/c I'm not sure what size line I should be getting, nor what charger to get. I'm not planning on using the truck to power my house, so I don't think that the FCSP is necessarily the best option.

I was thinking the same thing, but when I found out they were throwing it in, including labor, I figured why not.
If you haven't already, check out State of Charge on youtube. He has a "best of" for 2024 charge stations vid.
As for size, I think the newer trucks are limited to 48 amps. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

I'm sure others will be along shortly to help out, as well.

 

[Maquis]

As for size, I think the newer trucks are limited to 48 amps.

Correct. The exception being that 80A can be ordered by fleets.

 

[RLXXI]

I seem to be following right behind you, Highpi. Only had my truck for about 3 weeks now and have only been using the small plug in charger so far, with a couple of top offs at a charge station near my work. I haven't gotten moving yet on getting an installation done b/c I'm not sure what size line I should be getting, nor what charger to get. I'm not planning on using the truck to power my house, so I don't think that the FCSP is necessarily the best option.

If you can get the bigger (80a) charger do so, it's better to derate a larger charger than run one at its highest potential all the time. Think of it like a car with a 4cyl turbo and compare it to a car with a v8 non turbo .They both have similar power output but that little turbo engine has to work twice as hard where the v8 does it not even breathing heavy.

 

[Rayden]

If you can get the bigger (80a) charger do so, it's better to derate a larger charger than run one at its highest potential all the time. Think of it like a car with a 4cyl turbo and compare it to a car with a v8 non turbo .They both have similar power output but that little turbo engine has to work twice as hard where the v8 does it not even breathing heavy.

Yeah, that makes sense. I have the ‘23 Lariat ER, so it seemed to make sense to go with an 80A charger. So what do I tell the electrician I need as far as the circuit for the EVSE?

 

[RLXXI]

Yeah, that makes sense. I have the ‘23 Lariat ER, so it seemed to make sense to go with an 80A charger. So what do I tell the electrician I need as far as the circuit for the EVSE?

For an 80a circuit, you'll want a 100a breaker. The 25 Flash I got has been derated so it can only utilize 48a thus a 60a breaker works for me.

 

[flyct]

Yeah, that makes sense. I have the ‘23 Lariat ER, so it seemed to make sense to go with an 80A charger. So what do I tell the electrician I need as far as the circuit for the EVSE?

As an owner of a 2023 Lariat ER you can take advantage of 80 amp chargers. That is assuming that your electrical service has enough headroom to accommodate it. An electrician will be able to tell you. The 80 AMP chargers require a 100a dedicated circuit to deliver 80 amps to the vehicle.

A good 80 amp EVSE selection is a Grizzl-E ultimate https://grizzl-e.com/products/grizzl-e-ultimate/

It's not that expensive and it's Canadian made with excellent reported reliability.

The current limit is set with DIP switches buy the installer to match the max amperage of the circuit it is connected to. Their user APP has a slider to set the current limit lower if needed for a charging session, and set it up to the current limit of the DIP switch settings.

 

[Perry]

Mine is arriving on Monday (finally! After waiting a couple of months for the dealer to help me) and I’ll see which one it is that I got.

 

[Rayden]

Thanks, flyct. I’ll take a look at the Grizzl-E. I do feel like the more I find out, the more questions I have.

The new one I have now is…
What is my charge time with a 48A charger vs an 80A charger? That would help make the decision. Provided I can actually GET an 80A circuit, that is.

 

[flyct]

Thanks, flyct. I’ll take a look at the Grizzl-E. I do feel like the more I find out, the more questions I have.

The new one I have now is…
What is my charge time with a 48A charger vs an 80A charger? That would help make the decision. Provided I can actually GET an 80A circuit, that is.

First you need a 100 amp circuit to power an 80 amp charger.

Like I tell everyone, It takes me 10 seconds to charge my EV. That is the time it takes ME to plug it in. By morning it fully charged regardless of what rate I change it at.

To replenish a 131 kWh ER battery the 85 kWh's from 15% to 80% (0.65x131=85kWh) it roughly takes:

• 8.0 hrs at 48 amps
• 4.75 hrs at 80 amps

 

[Rayden]

First you need a 100 amp circuit to power an 80 amp charger.

Like I tell everyone, It takes me 10 seconds to charge my EV. That is the time it takes ME to plug it in. By morning it fully charged regardless of what rate I change it at.

To replenish a 131 kWh ER battery the 85 kWh's from 15% to 80% (0.65x131=85kWh) it roughly takes:

• 8.0 hrs at 48 amps
• 4.75 hrs at 80 amps

Thank you! That was exactly what I needed to know! Hopefully this helps someone else, especially since I sort of hijacked the OP’s thread.

 

[MDErnst]

FYI, I took delivery of a 2025 Lightning 2 weeks ago today and this week I received as my "Power Promise" charger the Emporia Classic 48A charger.

Mike

 

[Highpi]

Yeah, I’ve had the Ford Pass app since I bought the truck.
I think it’s the signal.

First, try powering it off for a few minutes then back on.
Not sure about your station but you had to set up the other ones with another app first to the WiFi and then to fordpass.
Signal strength is incredibly important here.

Bingo! I just happened to have an extra WiFi range extender, so I got that up and running, then I had to enter the station info manually and that seems to have done the trick.
I think everything is working properly.

Do I use the Ford Connect app for anything other than the connection?
Everything is accessed through the Ford Pass app, correct?

 

[K6CCC]

Everything is accessed through the Ford Pass app, correct?

Pretty much, yes. Use the FordPass app.

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