Service vehicle soon - Failure Coolant Valve Not covered by powertrain warranty?

[RLXXI]

That is the whole point of the diagnoses fee. Get you invested so you don't leave. It also test your willingness to write blank checks.

No. The point is to find out what's wrong and pay the technician, he has a mortgage that needs paying too and he can't do that if he doesn't get paid for his diag time.

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[flabrent]

No. The point is to find out what's wrong and pay the technician, he has a mortgage that needs paying too and he can't do that if he doesn't get paid for his diag time.

Ford tech's are paid by the job and not by the hour or salaried?

 

[RLXXI]

Ford tech's are paid by the job and not by the hour or salaried?

They get paid commission essentially on book labor time, what ever the book says the job takes, (including diagnostic time) the tech gets a % of what ever labor rate is, they call it flat rate pay.

 

[ytwytw]

All of it is covered in the U.S., no clue how Canada handles it. Here's the info from a U.S. dealer.

• What's Included?
  • Battery and Components: The warranty covers the battery pack and all associated components, such as the battery management system and cooling system.
  • Labor: Labor costs for diagnosing and repairing or replacing the EV battery are fully covered.

https://www.grangerfordprotect.com/...verage-benefits-and-how-to-extend-protection/

Canada and US shares the same warranty terms but motor cooling is not covered for unknown reason (and i think its part of the powertrain), but battery cooling system is covered.

 

[RLXXI]

Canada and US shares the same warranty terms but motor cooling is not covered for unknown reason (and i think its part of the powertrain), but battery cooling system is covered.

They're full of crap then, the cooling system for the battery and motors are one in the same. They're screwing you. I'd lawyer up on this one.

 

[Maxx]

No. The point is to find out what's wrong and pay the technician, he has a mortgage that needs paying too and he can't do that if he doesn't get paid for his diag time.

That would be fair if they charged for their time. The thing is for a problem that has happened many times before I go for my diagnosis, I expect to be a database across U.S. and even Canada that as soon as the tech types the symptoms gives him the likely causes, hours of labor and parts needed. First few times when the problem is new the time it takes to diagnose may be 1 hour any time after that it should not take more than 10 minutes including the time of staff that make the appointment.

 

[WXman]

Reason x*1000 why I wanted the extended warranty, save the arguments about why it's a financially "bad" decision to buy one.

Reason x*1000 why I leased mine and would never buy an EV.

It was already a $75k truck. Why should we have to spend another $5k or more to protect against these exorbitantly expensive repairs, none of which can be done at home like you can do on an ICE vehicle? Lease it, drive it for a few years, get another one. Never worry.

 

[ytwytw]

Reason x*1000 why I leased mine and would never buy an EV.

It was already a $75k truck. Why should we have to spend another $5k or more to protect against these exorbitantly expensive repairs, none of which can be done at home like you can do on an ICE vehicle? Lease it, drive it for a few years, get another one. Never worry.

EV can be fixed at home as well if you have $$$ equipment at home. Especially Tesla has service manual free online and diagnose software easy to buy just like FDRS, Ford isn't bad either, just need $$$ and time and you can do it at home too.

Also ICE repair isn't cheap either especially diesel stuff, I hate the EGR repair that costs me $$$$ in both parts and labour, along with the stupid entire environment protect stuff that costs lots of money to repair as well.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

I literally just had a stuck coolant valve replaced this week under warranty. Many are going bad and it’s a known issue.

Anyone else considering a pre-emptive swap out of the coolant valve BEFORE it gets stuck, while you're 300 miles from home...the "known problem" part gets my attention, as does the $100 part.

For those of us with a shop, tools, lift, time - why wouldn't we plan this sooner than later?

 

[Madasahatter1138]

"not sure if Ford has a different policy in the 51th state."

I sympathized until this comment. And 51th?

 

[Maquis]

Anyone else considering a pre-emptive swap out of the coolant valve BEFORE it gets stuck, while you're 300 miles from home...the "known problem" part gets my attention, as does the $100 part.

For those of us with a shop, tools, lift, time - why wouldn't we plan this sooner than later?

Unless the part has been redesigned to eliminate the failure mode, you might be installing one that fails earlier than the original.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Reason x*1000 why I leased mine and would never buy an EV.

It was already a $75k truck. Why should we have to spend another $5k or more to protect against these exorbitantly expensive repairs, none of which can be done at home like you can do on an ICE vehicle? Lease it, drive it for a few years, get another one. Never worry.

Because I unlike you, have a longer requirement for depreciation usage on my expensing, my goal is 8 to 10 years per vehicle, BTW, I paid less than half the retail listed price for my extended warranty, thank you @Granger Ford !!

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Unless the part has been redesigned to eliminate the failure mode, you might be installing one that fails earlier than the original.

My Bad, I had this assumption that a "Known Failure Part" would have a replacement that has solved that Known Problem LOL how silly of me. They may be more interested in just getting the truck out of warranty than fixing known problems with components...actually I hope they did change the design of the part.
Anyone able to check if the original coolant valve shares the same p/n with the replacement?

 

[Firn]

Reason x*1000 why I leased mine and would never buy an EV.

It was already a $75k truck. Why should we have to spend another $5k or more to protect against these exorbitantly expensive repairs, none of which can be done at home like you can do on an ICE vehicle? Lease it, drive it for a few years, get another one. Never worry.

There is nothing about this repair that is any more or less able to be done at home than on an ice truck.

The repair cost isnt any more or less than ICE trucks. This is a coolant valve, go look up the ones being used on gas trucks.

Not only are these just as repairable, there are less components to go bad.

In the end the only way to be ahead financially is to ride out the depreciation cycle. A lease isnt any better financially, its just paying per month to borrow a truck, at the end of it you end up with no truck and the money is gone. Buy it and you pay more, but lose money on the depreciation.

The worst thing to do financially is to have a new vehicle at all. Aside from that, buy, lease, warranty, no warranty, its just you spending money to have less of it at the end and the argument just becomes some percentage difference of how much was lost.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

The Lighning ticked a lot of the boxes for my long-term ownership:
- Alum body panels = no rusted out wheel wells/rockers/cab corners.
- No 10-speed transmission to worry about.
- No engine issues and no long term ICE maintenance.
- No gasoline to purchase. Ever.
- provides electrical back up to my home and business
- super capable truck for short trip hauling, comparable to a 3/4 ton, and far more comfortable.
- super-car level performance, at a half-ton pick up price.
- pretty simple drive system Batt-Motor-Charger not a lot of parts really. Should be easy to repair.

Best part - a super online forum of enthusiasts to provide support when needed.

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