Someone upgraded a SR to an ER.

[RickLightning]

is this based on time of the day/day of the week at those locations? or they are set like that all the time?

p.s. I agree with you that it will never happen. I think in U.S. EVs will get on the road faster than chargers so congestion at the chargers will likely be more of a problem than inability to derate.

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[bc1]

Even better, it’s only 8 bolts lol

Yep. Ford probably got a complaint from the International Union of Thieves about the number of bolts they had to remove in a dark parking lot. Just like what they heard when they designed the easy tail gate hack and easy two screws removal to get at those $5,000 taillights.

On the other hand, maybe they were trying to avoid a Pinto situation and hoped the 8 bolts would shear off in a major collision so the battery detached and departed the truck before catching on fire?

 

[chl]

if you want to try this 'at home', on a slab garage... on a flat surface, without a lift...

*... unplug the Frunk's Main HV disconnect
**crawl under and disconnect the appropriate HV cables and Coolant lines, using a bowl and towels to catch any loss of coolant...

A) place a 2' x 8' sheet of 1/2" or 3/4" plywood on the slab surface, just under the centerline of the battery pack
-place 4 bottle jacks near each corner of this plywood base.
-add another sheet of plywood on top of these jacks, to help distribute the weight, and create a solid surface, for later...
-jack up each of these bottle jacks, in succession, evenly, until each corner of the plywood touches the battery pack
-now, using good judgement, apply some equal pressure from each bottle jack, which will now be 'holding' up the battery pack, and hopefully relieving some of the pressure on each bolt

B) start removing the 8 battery pack bolts, outside corners first...

D) now, use four other jacks to lift up the four corners of the truck, creating enough clearance to then be able to 'pull/push/slide' the battery pack out, on it's plywood base, from under the truck
-making note of the exact placement of the plywood base, and the battery pack on top of each bottle jack location, will make aligning and reinstalling the new battery pack much easier

Is that the voice of experience? Or AI?
Hoping I don't ever have to do that!

One time I lifted an empty hot tub (close to 400lbs) to repair some wood under it using a 4x4 and some bricks and a long pry bar:

1) lift one side using the pry bar as a lever arm with a brick or two as the fulcrum, then
2) slide a 4x4 under the hot tub about 1/3 of the way, then
3) do the same on the other side of the hot tub, now
4) tip the hot tub to one side until it is off one of the 4x4s and raise that 4x4 by putting a brick under each end, then
5) do the same for the other 4x4, then
6) repeat steps 4 and 5 until the hot tub is high enough to do the repair work.
7) when the repair work is finished, tip one side until it is off one of the 4x4s and remove a brick from each end of that 4x4, then
8) do the same for the other side, then
9) repeat steps 7 and 8 until the bricks are gone, then
10) use the lever arm as in step 1 to lift the hot tub off one of the 4x4s, then
11) remove that 4x4, and
12) do the same as in step 10 and 11 for the other 4x4 on the other side.

And they wonder how Stone Henge was raised with only simple tools when about all you need is a lever arm and fulcrum and some ingenuity!

"Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world" is a famous quote attributed to the ancient Greek mathematician and inventor Archimedes, illustrating the immense power of leverage where a small force applied over a great distance can move a massive object, though practically impossible due to infinite lever length and material limitations, but symbolically representing transformative change.

 

[ZeusDriver]

Ahh see, it's been a while since I've studied the exact battery removal documentation, well that's even better lol

Ok, I have 6 bolts removed, but the pack seems to be bending a little, I wonder if I should support it somehow. Not sure how much I can bench press. To be safe, I'm going to wedge in a piece of PVC pipe at each end.

 

[ctuan13]

Ok, I have 6 bolts removed, but the pack seems to be bending a little, I wonder if I should support it somehow. Not sure how much I can bench press. To be safe, I'm going to wedge in a piece of PVC pipe at each end.

Oh man you're actually pulling it now? It needs to be centrally supported with a platform jack. You don't want any asymmetrical force on the fastners.

 

[Maybe Going EV]

If an owner connects the two batteries, that would be the ultimate.

 

[chl]

If an owner connects the two batteries, that would be the ultimate.

Some Leaf owners did that, put a whole 24kWh battery in the hatch area, there was a company doing that for them back in the day...

But now, with better battery tech, Leaf owners can triple the battery capacity with a 72kWh that fits where the original 24kWh battery goes.

I'd wait for the new tech batteries to go into mass production, the Solid State batteries will have more capacity per pound and area, charge faster, and last longer, as well as being safer.

GM, Nissan and others are heading in that direction with their 27-28 model year EVs (so they say).

No doubt by the time the 8 year battery warranty from Ford is over, there will be better tech batteries to replace them with.

That's what I will be watching down the road.

 

[DNap4]

Are the batteries any different in model years 24-25'? Or could you pull a 2025' extended range battery and put it on a 22'? I have a 22', so was just wondering since I heard there were some differences in the later model years?

 

[Newton]

Everybody knows that the only proper material to build battery lifts from is drywall. Half inch plywood only handles 30 pounds per square foot.

 

[Firn]

you can be the yahoo that don’t derate your Lightning to have your mean in peace. I will be the yahoo that does and risk getting fined or an interrupted meal. It is all about the choice. If you look at Tesla Super charger traffic charts, it is a bell curve. The 9 car scenario does not happen that often and when it does, it maybe more predictable than you think (so chargers can refuse derating).

I don’t have as much DCFC experience as you but most of my charging has been at opposite ends of spectrum. Either the charger was too busy to allow derating or it was mostly empty and remained empty when I left.

The feature would be handy for level 2 charging too. When I got my lightning first with Ford mobile chargers which didn’t have any adjustments, there were occasions that I needed to plug in to a 240V laundry receptacle but I needed only 24 amp.

don’t worry my bad ideas can never be damaging. No one ever listens to me.

No, THAT ends up being someone forcing their choice on others.

Potentially preventing others from using a charger so that you dont have to take care of your own vehicle is deplorable.

Thats avoiding the fact that the owner of the charger loses the opportunity to make money off that space.

Chargers are ment for charging, not parking. Get in, get out, anything else is just being selfish and lazy.

 

[Ferroxide]

Oh man you're actually pulling it now? It needs to be centrally supported with a platform jack. You don't want any asymmetrical force on the fastners.

DUCT TAPE....works great!

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