Footprint of 131Kwh battery vs 98 kw battery

[TaxmanHog]

and how about the weight? is it the exact same for 98kw and 131kw?

No, the SR pack equipped trucks have a lower curb weight.

Part of the difference includes less auxiliary equipment, namely one board charger on all SR's across the years vs the Lightning ER's that had two in the 22's & 23's.

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[blueI5land]

lol. impossible to get a straight answer here.

Forcing me to ask questions in a brutally direct way:

Question 1: what is the weight of the 131kw battery pack?

Question 2: what is the weight of the 98kw battery pack?

 

[The Weatherman]

lol. impossible to get a straight answer here.

Forcing me to ask questions in a brutally direct way:

Question 1: what is the weight of the 131kw battery pack?

Question 2: what is the weight of the 98kw battery pack?

Approximately:

2. 1,800 lbs

1. 2,100 lbs

 

[PreservedSwine]

and how about the weight? is it the exact same for 98kw and 131kw?

Did you see the thread where a member just swapped his SR for an ER battery he bought on eBay? Perfect fit. He didn't even need to program the truck- it recognized and added the appropriate kWh'rs to his range.

 

[chl]

Did you see the thread where a member just swapped his SR for an ER battery he bought on eBay? Perfect fit. He didn't even need to program the truck- it recognized and added the appropriate kWh'rs to his range.

Yes, but I wonder about the on-board chargers - did he add the second one that ER models have or did he just stick with the one charger the SRs have? If the latter, charging cannot go to 80A with AC charging at home L2.

 

[PJnc284]

Yes, but I wonder about the on-board chargers - did he add the second one that ER models have or did he just stick with the one charger the SRs have? If the latter, charging cannot go to 80A with AC charging at home L2.

Believe the battery was the only thing he added. Not really any different than probably 99.9% of 24/25 ERs though.

 

[PreservedSwine]

Yes, but I wonder about the on-board chargers - did he add the second one that ER models have or did he just stick with the one charger the SRs have? If the latter, charging cannot go to 80A with AC charging at home L2.

No, he didn't. As I understand it, the dual onboard chargers were just for a couple years, and just A/C. So it would only affect 80 Amp Ford CSP units on model year 2023 and 2022. Which if we're being honest, loosing the 80Amp Ford CSP isn't a big loss

not entirely sure about the DC Fast charging.

 

[RLXXI]

No, he didn't. As I understand it, the dual onboard chargers were just for a couple years, and just A/C. So it would only affect 80 Amp Ford CSP units on model year 2023 and 2022. Which if we're being honest, loosing the 80Amp Ford CSP isn't a big loss

not entirely sure about the DC Fast charging.

I've heard others say that about the FCSP. What seems to be the problem with it? I've had mine for about 4 months with no issue

 

[chl]

No, he didn't. As I understand it, the dual onboard chargers were just for a couple years, and just A/C. So it would only affect 80 Amp Ford CSP units on model year 2023 and 2022. Which if we're being honest, loosing the 80Amp Ford CSP isn't a big loss

not entirely sure about the DC Fast charging.

He put an old ER battery in as I recall to an SR truck.

All trucks with the ER batteries had dual chargers so one could charge to 100% in a reasonable amount of time at 80A (19.2kW= 240V x 80A).

Then the Flash sized battery (123kWh) came along with only 1 charger, the same charger as on the SR trucks with a 48A max current (11.52kW = 48A x 240V).

So either he has an ER battery with just one 48A limited charger, or he also put in the second charger, the video did not specify unless I missed it.

240V x 48A x time = 131kWh (full battery capacity - usable - of the ER) so
11.37 hours to fully charge with a 48A limited L2 charger.

It'd be about 6.82 hours at 80A with 2 on-board chargers.

Ignoring losses of course in both scenarios and using nominal voltage of 240VAC.

 

[chl]

Believe the battery was the only thing he added. Not really any different than probably 99.9% of 24/25 ERs though.

Yes, go figure.
To save a few buck with one charger standard on ER 24's and 25's?
And nearly double the time to fully charge it....what were they thinking?
And give away an 80A capable EVSE at the same time?

Scratching my head.

 

[K6CCC]

Being the owner of a '24 ER Flash with the single 48 amp charger and a FCSP, I will tell you that the 48 amp charging at home is simply NOT an issue for the vast majority of users. The one and only time it was a slight issue for me is one time when I had intentionally ran the battery fairly low (mid teens), and was intending to charge to 100% for BMS calibration. Because I needed to leave by 0800 the following morning, I did the math and realized that I needed to start the charge an hour earlier than I normally would. That meant that for the first hour I was at my higher TOU electric rate.

With the 48 amp charger, and a ER battery, I get just slightly over 10KW into the battery charge rate. That comes out to about 7.65 percent per hour - or about 2/3 of full capacity in a short overnight. That's close to 200 miles. Is 200 a day when at home a limitation. I'm sure for a few people it is, but not most.

 

[TaxmanHog]

and how about the weight? is it the exact same for 98kw and 131kw?

lol. impossible to get a straight answer here.

Forcing me to ask questions in a brutally direct way:

Question 1: what is the weight of the 131kw battery pack?

Question 2: what is the weight of the 98kw battery pack?

Outta the blue question four months later (LOL)

 

[blueI5land]

Even weirder you're here.

 

[TaxmanHog]

Trigger Finger

 

[ClevelandBeemer]

I've heard others say that about the FCSP. What seems to be the problem with it? I've had mine for about 4 months with no issue

I can tell you mine errors out once things get real cold, like < 20°F. It will also randomly error out if I have preferred charge or departure times set.

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