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1. I keep getting a message that my battery is in saver mode and I should drive it to correct the problem. However everything works fine and I have been driving it extensively. Any suggestions?

2. Referring the Pro Power Onboard display, I cannot find any information about it in the manual. Can someone explain it or direct me to a place in the manual where I can find an explanation

3. On my app, I continually get a notification that the remote controls are disconnected, even if I'm standing right next to the truck. If I tried to reset it nothing seems to happen. Any help on correcting this problem?

Thanks in advance

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1)Sounds like a low 12v battery.
2)the power button turns the whole thing off or on, push the individual zones alternatively. Scroll down for more options.
3). No Bluetooth? App can't connect when idle?
 

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Touch the i icon for a little bit of additional information about Pro Power.

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1 and 3 may be related. Get your 12v battery tested.
 

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ProPower screen will show the Watts/Amerpage USAGE of each of the two INVERTERS when in use...

so, Cab/Frunk view, which is from it's 120v inverter, will show any usage AMPERAGE(or WATTS / 120v = Amps) from devices or anything drawing power from ANY of those outlets in the Cab or Frunk, if usage exceeds a small minimum amount for it to start showing anything...

the BED Outlets, though,will show both 'sides', A and B, of it's 240v inverter power usage:
...each side is 120v, and the combination of A and B makes 240v power...

- the 240v twist-lock outlet, if in use, will show a combination of AMPEREAGE for each side(or WATTS / 120v = Amps), which may be using both sides equally, or each side may be different, depending on the device type...
....for instance, if you were to be using the outlet to charge another EV, both sides would show identical usage, since an EVSE draws identical Amperage from both sides of 240v power, but...
....if you have a 240v 50amp rv/motorome using the outlet, it's likely that both sides will be different, since the RV/motorhome is almost always drawing differing amounts from both sides... the air conditioner on one side, the electric water heater on the other, etc.

- the 120v OUTLET sets, though, are both on SEPARATE sides of the same 240v inverter - meaning that if you have a device drawing power from one outlet, it will show Amperage draw on side A, or on side B, depending on which outlet it is plugged into.
 

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Any change in your driving style? ie. shorter drives, quick trips to the corner store, driveway shuffles etc? If not, and most of your drives are 20-30 minutes or longer, it is a pretty strong indicator of a weak 12v battery.
 

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This video goes into some detail including how to properly power your home with the PPOB 240V 30A outlet (hint-through a transfer switch and NOT by cutting the ground wire to avoid tripping the GFCI).

 

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The 12V battery message:

The 12V battery has been an issue for many of us. The truck only charges the 12V when driving or when the truck is charging on a 'charger' (technically an EVSE, Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment). Or when it gets really low for 48 hours. Not good for AGM batteries!

I found the driving inadequate to keep my 12V battery charged above 85% or so which is needed to get some OTA updates.

So one solution is to have your truck plugged in to the EVSE when not driving it.

Another would be a trickle charger connected to the jump terminals under the Frunk passenger side cover (or to the correct terminals inside the battery compartment marked in blue circles in this image NOT the red Xs):


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Also, your truck may need some Customer Service Program (CSPs) updates related to the 12V battery.

You can check if you need any of them using your VIN on the Ford website.

Good luck!
 
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ChatGPT solve the third issue. It suggested deleting the app and reinstalling it. That resolved the problem.
The 12V battery message:

The 12V battery has been an issue for many of us. The truck only charges the 12V when driving or when the truck is charging on a 'charger' (technically an EVSE, Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment). Or when it gets really low for 48 hours. Not good for AGM batteries!

I found the driving inadequate to keep my 12V battery charged above 85% or so which is needed to get some OTA updates.

So one solution is to have your truck plugged in to the EVSE when not driving it.

Another would be a trickle charger connected to the jump terminals under the Frunk passenger side cover (or to the correct terminals inside the battery compartment marked in blue circles in this image NOT the red Xs):


where to connect neg for battery charger-info.webp



Also, your truck may need some Customer Service Program (CSPs) updates related to the 12V battery.

You can check if you need any of them using your VIN on the Ford website.

Good luck!

I often leave the truck running when my dog is in it. It often sits for up to an hour running. I do tend to charge it every couple of days. Is it possible that the idling is leading to the message? It always seems to go away.
 

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So one solution is to have your truck plugged in to the EVSE when not driving it.
This doesn't really work. The truck only charges the 12v when the HVB is actively charging. Just being plugged in when the HVB is already at target SOC doesn't help the 12v. It seems a bit of a flaw in Ford's 12v charging plan, but that is the way it works unless it has been changed very recently.
 

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ChatGPT solve the third issue. It suggested deleting the app and reinstalling it. That resolved the problem.



I often leave the truck running when my dog is in it. It often sits for up to an hour running. I do tend to charge it every couple of days. Is it possible that the idling is leading to the message? It always seems to go away.
No. Truck running powers the DC-DC converter which provides charging current to the 12V battery.
Recommend doing BMS learned values reset followed by a drive of half an hour or longer (or just turn the truck on and let it run until the shutdown timer turns it off).
 

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This doesn't really work. The truck only charges the 12v when the HVB is actively charging. Just being plugged in when the HVB is already at target SOC doesn't help the 12v. It seems a bit of a flaw in Ford's 12v charging plan, but that is the way it works unless it has been changed very recently.
Yes, I went back and edited it to specify that after I proof-read it, but I guess not before you read it.

I agree it's a Ford Flaw that needs attention from Ford.

But my 2012 Leaf is pretty much the same, all the electronics will drain the 12v when the car is off (unless it is in the sun and getting trickled charged from the solar panel built in to the roof) so I keep that 12v on a trickle charger - so far so good approaching year 14!
 

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ChatGPT solve the third issue. It suggested deleting the app and reinstalling it. That resolved the problem.



I often leave the truck running when my dog is in it. It often sits for up to an hour running. I do tend to charge it every couple of days. Is it possible that the idling is leading to the message? It always seems to go away.
I guess if the truck is on, it depends - do you have some accessories on, like the HVAC radio or other electrical stuff? In theory when it is ON it should be trickle charging the battery, but it was not enough for me back in the summer of 2024 before they updated some 12v battery things with a couple CSP.
 

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ChatGPT solve the third issue. It suggested deleting the app and reinstalling it. That resolved the problem.



I often leave the truck running when my dog is in it. It often sits for up to an hour running. I do tend to charge it every couple of days. Is it possible that the idling is leading to the message? It always seems to go away.
You leave it fully on, correct? Not in accessory mode?

The 12V battery is being charged any time the vehicle is running. There have been a few software and one hardware tweaks affecting how the 12V battery charges but if your truck is up-to-date the 12V battery should be charged.

It sounds like a bad 12V battery to me. My wife's Navigator was experiencing the same symptoms and a new battery solved the problem. Not a Lightning but still a Ford.
 

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There is a simple procedure for resetting the learned values for the 12v battery.

I recomend disconnecting the 12v battery, charging it fully with a known good charger, then reconnecting and then performing the LVB reset.

You may also consider replacing the battery at this point. Which i also recomend charging fully before installing.
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