ECU module programming guide using FDRS

[Jesse-Infotainment]

I noticed that as well and was about to post that along with a problem I’m having hopefully you or @rugedraw
can help?

got the error in the first pic when trying to install the IPC update in the second picture??

Serial mean the cluster Serial doesnt match what ford has on their server.

The easiest way to get around the serial number is to PMI the IPC..

Are you aware of the IPC ever being replaced?

PMI will associate the serial with your truck. PMI will also update.

Keep in mind the IPC update is two parts. So make sue to pay attention.

First half is USB

Second is can bus.

Need to do both halves sometimes people get click happy and miss it

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[bmwhitetx]

Keep in mind the IPC update is two parts. So make sue to pay attention.
First half is USB
Second is can bus.

For IPC update, on part 2, I thought I saw that CanBus updates can take exceedingly long times. Or is this referring to regular FDRS and will go quickly.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

For IPC update, on part 2, I thought I saw that CanBus updates can take exceedingly long times. Or is this referring to regular FDRS and will go quickly.

Not on the ipc. It’s a small strategy file. Takes a few min.
The usb file is done via usb because it would take 6 hours via canbus.

 

[Zprime29]

For the USB flash drive, am I overthinking it when it comes to read/write speed? Is there a limit on the truck or are there any tangible benefits to getting a more expensive drive with a faster tested read/write?

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

For the USB flash drive, am I overthinking it when it comes to read/write speed? Is there a limit on the truck or are there any tangible benefits to getting a more expensive drive with a faster tested read/write?

I use a USB C Sandisk. The main thing is not to name the uSB anything long. I always use Ford Or Sync.

As far as the rest its not important. The Sync 4 input is still mini USB.

The uSB updates are uploaded to gateway from the APIM through the ethernet and then sent out via Ethernet from the gateway so the transfer speed is limited to the initial Usb connection.

Even so the larger updates still get done fairly quickly.

 

[21st Century Truck]

For the USB flash drive, am I overthinking it when it comes to read/write speed? Is there a limit on the truck or are there any tangible benefits to getting a more expensive drive with a faster tested read/write?

I use a relatively cheap SSD portable drive with a USB dongle. It's significantly faster, both when downloading and then when car-connected-processing the usual 6 gigabyte file cargo load.

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

I forgot about the transfer to the USB from FDRS>

FDRS does that MUCH faster now. It used to be terrible. It is way better now. Downloads seem to be better also.

 

[Zprime29]

I use a relatively cheap SSD portable drive with a USB dongle. It's significantly faster, both when downloading and then when car-connected-processing the usual 6 gigabyte file cargo load.

I think I have an old SATA SSD, not sure I have a USB dongle for it though. Time to go rummage through my spare parts bin.

I forgot about the transfer to the USB from FDRS>

FDRS does that MUCH faster now. It used to be terrible. It is way better now. Downloads seem to be better also.

If it's comparable, I may just go that route. But I thought I read there are some updates that require a USB, is that still the case?

 

[Jesse-Infotainment]

I think I have an old SATA SSD, not sure I have a USB dongle for it though. Time to go rummage through my spare parts bin.


If it's comparable, I may just go that route. But I thought I read there are some updates that require a USB, is that still the case?

Yes.

APIM, TCU, Gateway, IPC

TCU, Gateway and IPC are not USB Only but thats how you want to play it. Takes hours otherwise at the canbus speeds.

 

[Jasin]

Break out the USB drive because it's update time!

Do the GWM first, then, if another GWM doesn't show up, do the APIM.

That should do the trick. My '22 is on the APIM rev "-NG" which I know is Sync 1270. The application manifest for the APIM in your list says it's the same "-NG" revision you'll end up with when it's updated.

You can also do the powertrain updates while you're there. In this case with only three modules in that set it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes tops for the powertrain.

I should note that after I did the APIM update to Sync 1270 I did not immediately see the Public Charging app update. It took a little while for that to show up in the apps list...I noticed it was there the next day. So I think it's something that is dynamically updated and populated after the APIM is updated.

@Mike G from reading a few of you post you are manually updating your MY 22 from SYNC Version 4.0.23306 which is update 6.14 to Sync Version 1270 which is update 10.1.1 with the Google Maps Update? Can you tell me what I need to tell my dealership as I do not have the licenses for FDRS, IDS, etc. I have had no updates since 13 September and they nothing is pending or needs an update and this was just a few days ago.

Appreciate it.

 

[Mike G]

@Mike G from reading a few of you post you are manually updating your MY 22 from SYNC Version 4.0.23306 which is update 6.14 to Sync Version 1270 which is update 10.1.1 with the Google Maps Update? Can you tell me what I need to tell my dealership as I do not have the licenses for FDRS, IDS, etc. I have had no updates since 13 September and they nothing is pending or needs an update and this was just a few days ago.

Appreciate it.

From your post, you've already consulted your service advisor, and they likely checked your OTA dashboard and told you there was nothing in process or pending and said there really wasn't anything they could do. And they're not wrong, actually.

If you don't have any outstanding FSAs (like a recall etc.) then you'd likely be paying out of pocket to get a tech to work through your software updates list and bring you current.

You can call the BEV team and ask them to take a look and see if there's something that's keeping you from getting OTAs 800-392-3673 but I'm not sure how much help that would be.

 

[Jasin]

I would not mind paying out of pocket at this point...I honestly wish that was offered! I guess I don't understand how I see yall using FDRS to update your modules but a dealership says there is not update available...

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I am sure you are busy.

 

[PJnc284]

I would not mind paying out of pocket at this point...I honestly wish that was offered! I guess I don't understand how I see yall using FDRS to update your modules but a dealership says there is not update available...

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I am sure you are busy.

For what it would cost at the dealer, you could probably buy everything yourself. Took me about 6 hours to get everything on my 23 updated from 6.8 and could've been worse if the dealer hadn't already done the front censor CSP that updated the IPMA/PSCM. Where are you located in VA? Maybe someone with the required equipment is close to you.

 

[Jasin]

If there is someone local with stuff I would pay them today! I am south of DC but North of Fredericksburg.

 

[Mike G]

I would not mind paying out of pocket at this point...I honestly wish that was offered! I guess I don't understand how I see yall using FDRS to update your modules but a dealership says there is not update available...

Thanks for taking the time to respond, I am sure you are busy.

Oh that's an easy one...there's no OTAs available, but that doesn't mean there isn't a laundry list of available software updates in FDRS to be applied.

Two separate things entirely.

Software engineers determine a fix needs to be made because of observed behaviors or aggregate DTCS from the population in the field and so a fix is made and posted to FDRS. Whether or not that makes it's way over to the OTA team for distribution that way is a whole different thing. That same fix would then have to be approved for release as an OTA and packaged in a way that it will process correctly as an OTA and then it's tested to make sure it will in fact not bork something, and then it's queued up for those vehicles based on VIN that would benefit from it.

I just skip all of that and do all my own updates on both of my EVs because they both are happier when all the updates are applied, and as a result I am too. I get that not everybody wants to or is in a position to do this. But it's either that or be at the mercy of a dealership.

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