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Downgrading the Charge Station Pro amperage

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According to the Installation Specs on the Ford Charge Station Pro, the charge rate can be decreased to work with existing circuit breaker panels via hardware settings. Has anyone learned what amperage it can be downgrade to? I have enough room to add a 70-amp breaker to my panel, so I’d like to be able to charge at 56 amps. I know I could add a 60-amp breaker and get 48 amps and that 48 amps would probably be supported. But what about 56 amps? My thinking is that since 4 AWG wire is recommended for both 60-amps and 70-amps breakers, I like the additional 8 amps charging capability.

https://www.globalowneraem.ford.com...us/documents/Lightning-FCSP-Install-Specs.pdf
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I thought it was 20-80 amp capable.
 

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According to the Installation Specs on the Ford Charge Station Pro, the charge rate can be decreased to work with existing circuit breaker panels via hardware settings. Has anyone learned what amperage it can be downgrade to? I have enough room to add a 70-amp breaker to my panel, so I’d like to be able to charge at 56 amps. I know I could add a 60-amp breaker and get 48 amps and that 48 amps would probably be supported. But what about 56 amps? My thinking is that since 4 AWG wire is recommended for both 60-amps and 70-amps breakers, I like the additional 8 amps charging capability.

https://www.globalowneraem.ford.com...us/documents/Lightning-FCSP-Install-Specs.pdf
Your answer at 5:50 mark of video.
 

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can you find a 70 amp breaker?
I ask because I’m limited to 50, 60 and 100 amp breakers available from HD or Lowes locally.

nevermind. Seek and you shall find.
 
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can you find a 70 amp breaker?
I ask because I’m limited to 50, 60 and 100 amp breakers available from HD or Lowes locally.

nevermind. Seek and you shall find.
Well, now I'm looking for a 70 amp "Power Disconnect". I can't seem to find that item.
 

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Well, now I'm looking for a 70 amp "Power Disconnect". I can't seem to find that item.
Are you adding up the breakers in the box to come up that you only have room for a 70? That's not how it works. The sum of breakers can be greater than the total box capacity.
 
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What was the answer at the 5 min mark?
at 6 minutes 40 seconds. Only that is adjustable down to 20 amps. But that could mean 16, 24, 36, 48, and 80 amp circuit (Only 20% of the breaker)
 

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What was the answer at the 5 min mark?

Tom says 20A to 80A in the video but not the increments. I'm pretty certain I heard someone say that it's in 10A increments but I'm not sure where I heard that. It was just in the last few days.
 
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Are you adding up the breakers in the box to come up that you only have room for a 70? That's not how it works. The sum of breakers can be greater than the total box capacity.
No, I have a main and a subpanel. On my main panel I have a 40 and a 30 amp breaker that are no longer needed. So I am just assuming that I could at least decommission those two breakers and install a 70 amp in place of the 40 amp. I will have an electrician come and review and make a recommendation. At this point I am only putting together a budget and parts list. Also need to pull about 115 ft of wire so the cost will be substantial more if I go larger than 4 gauge. Since my garage is on the other side of the house from the main panel, it's my understanding I need a power disconnect in the garage Thanks and I'm open to any recommendations.
 

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No, I have a main and a subpanel. On my main panel I have a 40 and a 30 amp breaker that are no longer needed. So I am just assuming that I could at least decommission those two breakers and install a 70 amp in place of the 40 amp. I will have an electrician come and review and make a recommendation. At this point I am only putting together a budget and parts list. Also need to pull about 115 ft of wire so the cost will be substantial more if I go larger than 4 gauge. Since my garage is on the other side of the house from the main panel, it's my understanding I need a power disconnect in the garage Thanks and I'm open to any recommendations.
. Breakers 5/7 and 6/8 are no longer needed.

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No, I have a main and a subpanel. On my main panel I have a 40 and a 30 amp breaker that are no longer needed. So I am just assuming that I could at least decommission those two breakers and install a 70 amp in place of the 40 amp. I will have an electrician come and review and make a recommendation. At this point I am only putting together a budget and parts list. Also need to pull about 115 ft of wire so the cost will be substantial more if I go larger than 4 gauge. Since my garage is on the other side of the house from the main panel, it's my understanding I need a power disconnect in the garage Thanks and I'm open to any recommendations.
The power disconnect in the garage can be another subpanel with a breaker. A small subpanel is only about $23 and breakers are only about $15 so you can get by pretty inexpensively. Also give you the option to add a NEMA 14-50 outlet as well by adding more breakers in the box

Here is what I did in my garage (only 25' from my main panel so it wasn't required). This allowed me to have a 60 amp breaker for the ChargePoint EVSE and a NEMA 14-50 outlet in the event the EVSE stopped working.
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No, I have a main and a subpanel. On my main panel I have a 40 and a 30 amp breaker that are no longer needed. So I am just assuming that I could at least decommission those two breakers and install a 70 amp in place of the 40 amp. I will have an electrician come and review and make a recommendation. At this point I am only putting together a budget and parts list. Also need to pull about 115 ft of wire so the cost will be substantial more if I go larger than 4 gauge. Since my garage is on the other side of the house from the main panel, it's my understanding I need a power disconnect in the garage Thanks and I'm open to any recommendations.
Ignoring the cost of Wire, I‘d go 100 amp to the garage with a sub panel there. From the sub you could run another 100 to the charger, or a 60.
 

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I still get the feeling that most people won't need more than a 40A breaker EVSE for typical daily use. The 120VAC EVSE is unlikely to supply but a few users that maybe drive less than 35 miles a day I'd think. I have no intention of going too high on the charge rate unless I get some super time of use rate.
 

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Existing unused breaker sizes mean nothing. You electrician should be able to do an NEC load calculation and determine your remaining capacity. I’d bet you can utilize the full capacity of the FCSP.
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