Raptor vs Lightning: the numbers

[Pottsie]

Great analysis. Add in time spent getting the oil changes. That alone adds several hours a year. Far exceeding any time you spend a year having to sit Fast Charging while on a road trip.

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[Vulnox]

EV charging is unattended - you don't have to stay at the vehicle.

ICE refueling is mandatory to attend the pump while pumping (in almost all states). Those 5-10 minutes of your life are completely wasted just waiting on that pump. Maybe the other passengers can go in and buy some snacks or use the restroom while you pump, but at least one person cannot overlap their bathroom break with the pumping of the gas.

I made this argument on Reddit for another discussion and I was shocked and/or disheartened by how many people argued back that they never monitor the gas pump. They either get back in their vehicle or go in the station while it pumps.

They seemed to infer I was crazy for thinking they had to stay there since "most pumps have an auto stop when it's full". Yeesh.

I almost want to put down not having to be around as many careless and oblivious people as another pro for avoiding gas stations.

 

[TaxmanHog]

They seemed to infer I was crazy for thinking they had to stay there since "most pumps have an auto stop when it's full". Yeesh.

I've seen the cut-off fail, worse when it happens while fueling a motorcycle!

 

[RickKeen]

I made this argument on Reddit for another discussion and I was shocked and/or disheartened by how many people argued back that they never monitor the gas pump. They either get back in their vehicle or go in the station while it pumps.

They seemed to infer I was crazy for thinking they had to stay there since "most pumps have an auto stop when it's full". Yeesh.

I almost want to put down not having to be around as many careless and oblivious people as another pro for avoiding gas stations.

Its also a law in most states to stay in attendance.

 

[RLXXI]

I've seen the cut-off fail, worse when it happens while fueling a motorcycle!

Happened to me with my work van, good thing I wasn't standing there holding the nozzle because it started shooting out like a fountain. I was in the van watching for it to click off when it happened. I was able to move on it without getting sprayed and shut it off.

Probably half a gallon or so on the ground, went in and alerted the employees to rope it off for clean up.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

It may take longer to re-fuel the EV, but at least it doesn't stink, get on your clothes or spill electrons all over the parking lot...lol

 

[Maxx]

My 23 Pro cost me $32.5K + options. It does 0-60 3.9 Seconds.

23 Raptor R costs $107K and does 0-60 3.7 Seconds.

So it is not just cost of ownership that is different. Cost of purchase for me was 1/3 to get the same zip.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

It may take longer to re-fuel the EV, but at least it doesn't stink, get on your clothes or spill electrons all over the parking lot...lol

And anyone with the means—even a little bit of means—can make their own “fuel” for the EV and gain independence from unpredictable and uncontrollable energy companies.

A family member has a Bolt EUV and charges it entirely on a small amount of solar.

 

[pirate4x4lance]

My 23 Pro cost me $32.5K + options. It does 0-60 3.9 Seconds.

23 Raptor R costs $107K and does 0-60 3.7 Seconds.

So it is not just cost of ownership that is different. Cost of purchase for me was 1/3 to get the same zip.

Maybe on paper, but I have first hand experience racing my brother in law's Raptor R in my Lariat. With 5 people in my truck I smoked him.

 

[NW Ontario Ford Lightning]

Yup ! too!
Corvette
WRX
Warlock
Tremor
Raptor
All the noisy (stinky) turbo diesels too.

We need a name for the silly grin that comes across your face as you Silently leave those vehicles behind ya, in your dust. What can we call that smile:
The Lightning Grin?
The EV smiley?
The Gapping-Grin
The smoked-em laugh?

 

[RLXXI]

ebay,.

 

[RLXXI]

And anyone with the means—even a little bit of means—can make their own “fuel” for the EV and gain independence from unpredictable and uncontrollable energy companies.

A family member has a Bolt EUV and charges it entirely on a small amount of solar.

Can do the same thing for the ICE making ethanol, takes a lot more work and money though as well as getting your site approved. I dabbled with it years ago, Not sustainable on a small scale but will get you out of a pinch.

 

[Maxx]

Yup ! too!
Corvette
WRX
Warlock
Tremor
Raptor
All the noisy (stinky) turbo diesels too.

We need a name for the silly grin that comes across your face as you Silently leave those vehicles behind ya, in your dust. What can we call that smile:
The Lightning Grin?
The EV smiley?
The Gapping-Grin
The smoked-em laugh?

No need for a name, just a Halloween sticker on the tailgate will do;

 

[Shawnson]

I asked chat gpt to analyze my typical driving over a years time with my old raptor vs my lightning as I was curious what my time waiting for charging vs going to a gas station…

By far the most underrated marketing information EVER:
Total Station Time: ~6-8 hrs/year
Total DCFC Time: ~5-6 hrs/year

 

[Maxx]

By far the most underrated marketing information EVER:
Total Station Time: ~6-8 hrs/year
Total DCFC Time: ~5-6 hrs/year

in addition, per session charging time has side benefits; I regularly get free electricity. I don’t remember ever getting free gas.

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